Gird up your loins! (or not?) "Pray extend your Spartan jejunity to the length of a competent letter." BENTLEY Epist., to S. Clarke 18 Nov., 1719 Perhaps a better word, to follow Pater, would be _ascesis_. And I'm glad the OED quotes his Greek Studies: "The sanity of soul and body..the perfecting of both by reasonable exercise or ascésis." 1880 Greek Studies (1895) 267 I have checked with Dowling, "Hellenism in Victorian Oxford" (Cornell Univ.), and while she considers Pater in detail, I don't think it's _there_ I first read about Pater's ascesis. Maybe then it was Jenkins, but it's not to hand as I write this. I read from amazon: Richard Jenkyns is Professor of the Classical Tradition at the University of Oxford and a Fellow of Lady Margaret Hall. His books include The Victorians and Ancient Greece and Dignity and Decadence: Victorian Art and the Classical Inheritance. --- The first book cited above is a good one --, and I thought superficial, but I see Dowling considers it seriously. Jenkyns has an agenda to fight with, and his criticism of Pater is not altogether honest. (Jenkins and Dowling do refer to this Dorian 'ideal' which was popular (and perhaps it still is) among the code of England's upper-class. But then one has to be careful with codes. Usually the _existence_ of a code is to _inhibit_ a behaviour that is prevalent in a society and the coder wants _out_ (But then cfr. the Ten Commandments -- don't you find it _sarcastic_ that Jehova will have to _descend_ from Heaven to tell us, "Thou shalt not kill". Surely that makes little sense unless he has _seen_ people killing each other -- gratuitously? Oddly, "You shall fast" is no requirement in any code, necessarily as it would lead to death. Pater's first quote is more ambiguous. Is from his Renaissance book, The charm of ascesis, of the austere and serious girding of the loins in youth. but Geary must help me with my Greek here for 'girding of the loins'. Webster has "to gird one's loins" = to prepare for action. But again, I'll need to go OED. (Greek or Hebrew, or both?) to gird one's loins lit: 1535 COVERDALE 2 Kings iv. 29 Girde vp thy loynes, and take my staffe in thy hande, and go thy waye. Luke xii. 35 Let youre loynes be gerded aboute. 1810 SCOTT Lady of L. III. vii, He girt his loins and came. 1672 CAVE Prim. Chr. I. iii. (1673) 49 The mind is strengthened and girt close by indigence and frugality. So I suppose it's a good thing. As Helm reminded us, Spartan girls (and I'd add boys or youth) were oiled toe to head and exercised (ascesis) naked. So I suppose a little belt around the waist -- to hold a sword -- is just as well -- PROVIDED you _prepare for action_ (= war). In peace, and that's the charm of it, I'd say, _pace_ Pater, it's the ungirding of the loins (which is back to Physis). Perhaps Pater is clearer somewhere else. I cannot see how he can expand on 'ascesis' in the preface to the book on the Renaissance. These Victorian types are too far-ranging for me! That's for those entre nous who like to stick a notion, like _ascesis, and I don't _need_ that, to a historical context. With _ascesis_ it's perhaps advisable, since the word has strong Christian connotations -- and Jewish (see quotes below) that it would seem reasonable to see what's Greek, what's Spartan, and what not about this, apparently originally Greek (or is it oriental) notion? I note one quote relating fasting (jejunity) and ascesis. Funny how _ascesis_ and jejunity remains in Spanish. Word for 'breakfast' in Romance languages -- like "dejeneur" and "desayuno" -- are the strict equivalent of 'break-the-fast'. So it's 'ayuno' in Spanish that carries all the meaning of the Latin 'jejunum'. It's not clear what the role of _ascesis_ in Spartan 'games' (or 'martial arts') was. Plato constantly laughs at 'athletes' 'stuffing up' to win the panthleton -- but that's _athletes_ or _gynmnastai_, not necessarily _milites_ who, if to win, must be _fit_, not stuffed up, and what best way that have them 'trained' in 'ascesis'? Cheers, JL BA, A --- ascesis: [ad. Gr. askesis exercise, training, f. askein, to exercise.] [ad. Gr. adj., f. , f. - to exercise] The practice of self-discipline. 1873 PATER Renaissance p. xii, The charm of ascesis, of the austere and serious girding of the loins in youth. 1880 Greek Studies (1895) 267 The sanity of soul and body..the perfecting of both by reasonable exercise or ascésis. 1890 E. JOHNSON Rise Christendom 107 In the conduct of life they establish a strict ascesis..as a means of a closer communion with the Divine. 1924 J. KELMAN Prophets of Yesterday i. 24 The Greek idea of askesis was but the habit of the athlete. 1944 AUDEN For Time Being (1945) 84 The vision That plain men can predict through an Ascesis of their senses. 1646 SIR T. BROWNEPseud. Ep. viii. 126 This ascetic rule, which held that a saint was disgraced by the very society which his mild Master sought and loved. 1682 Chr. Morals (1756) 97 The old Ascetick christians found a paradise in a desert. 1757 BURKE Abridgm. Eng. Hist. Wks. X. 276 A monastery which had acquired great renown for..the severity of its ascetick discipline. 1850 TENNYSON In Mem. cix, High nature amorous of the good, But touch'd with no ascetic gloom. 1822 BURROWES Cycl., Ascetic, the title of certain books on devout exercises. 1868 PATTISON Academ. Org. §5. 122 The knowledge to be cultivated is not ascetic divinity. 1673 CAVE Prim. Chr. III. ii. 253 One of the primitive Asceticks. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xxxvii. (R.) The Ascetics, who obeyed and abused the rigid precepts of the gospel. 1861 A. BERESFORD-HOPE Eng. Cathedr. 19th C. v. 165 The deserts of the Thebaïd had been peopled by troops of sturdy and gaunt but God-fearing ascetics. 1660 JER. TAYLOR Ductor Dubit. II. iii. 8. §4 The primitive Christians were generally such ascetics in this instance of fasting. 1862 STANLEY Jewish Ch. (1877) I. i. 17 He is not an ascetic..but full of the affections and interests of family and household. 1751 CHAMBERS Cycl. s.v., Books of spiritual exercises. As the ascetics, or devout treatises of St. Basil. a1617 BAYNE On Eph. (1866) 331 Hence it is that ascetical sermons..are not in that request. 1697 tr. Dupin's Eccl. Hist. II. 145 The Ascetical Books attributed to St. Basil. 1884 ADDIS & ARNOLD Cath. Dict. s.v., St. Francis of Sales and St. Alphonsus Liguori may be mentioned as modern saints whose ascetical works are most esteemed. 1836 HOR. SMITH Tin Trump. (1876) 161 Our English puritans with their ascetical bigotry. c1800 E. C. KNIGHT Autobiog. I. 82 The Duke of Parma used frequently to clothe himself in a friar's robe, and live ascetically. 1842 J. H. NEWMAN Ch. of Fathers 367 Nor live ascetically for the sake of them. 1646 SIR T. BROWNE Pseud. Ep. VIII. (1845) 126 Doomed to a life of celibacy by the asceticism which had corrupted the simplicity of Christianity. 1859 MILL Liberty ii. 89 In its horror of sensuality, it made an idol of asceticism. 1850 W. HOWITT Year-bk. of Country iv. 106 Lent, with all its ascetism and abstinence, and gloom, is over. 1870 Contemp. Rev. XIII. 391 The melodramatic ascetism upon which such great store was then set. 1889 Macm. Mag. Jan. 236/1 There is certainly not a tinge in Shakespeare of sympathy with Catholic ascetism. **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)