--- John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > My wording was a tad harsh. Please allow me to say > that I have no > opinion concerning the innate intelligence of anyone > here, except as > it is presented in the words that cross my screen. > For all I know the > minds may be those of Shakespeares or Einsteins or > Ibn Khalduns. My > remarks concerned to the personae displayed in the > Punch and Judy > shows into which our political debates tend to > deteriorate. *I can only repeat the suggestion I made some time ago, viz. that those who feel that their supposably more moderate, sophisticated, sane etc. positions are not represented try and take a more active part in the discussion. I realize that the idea of getting down from that high gallery and unto the podium might be scary, but then it could also be an interesting and instructive experience. Also, if I may add, it seems a matter of particular urgency for the US Democrats to make their voice heard. > Similarly, in reply to Eric, I do not fancy myself a > marriage > counselor (though I have spent some time as a > volunteer on a telephone > crisis line). Divorcing couples are simply a good > illustration of the > dance of anger pattern. As any decent therapist > knows, people met > individually may seem pleasant and intelligent souls > but, then, when > seen together discussing their divorce may both seem > different people > and utterly insane. *The analogy with a marriage counselor seems by definition to imply superior knowledge and authority, as well as emotional dettachment. I proposed instead an analogy with a kibitzer in chess. A kibitzer is indeed sometimes able to see the things better than the players because of his emotional dettachment, but at other times he might be deceiving himself because what the players are sensing as it were intuitively has remained hidden from him. And, the people who kibitz a lot are seldom good players themselves. To be a chess player, one should accept first of all the probability that one will be making mistakes. O.K. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html