JL writes: "So the etymology agrees with Ginzburg's view. To tell the truth is to fight against oblivion. And oblivions must, by definition, then be _false_. Odd view the Greeks had." I'm not sure that one has to conclude that the Greeks equated oblivion with the false, nor even thought that oblivion must be false. If the true is that which is revealed, false things are not revealed, i.e. obscured. That does not mean that all things obscured are false... Regards to all, Eric Dean Rockford IL ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html