Me, too. But my perspective is a bit different. At 69 going on 70, I don't expect to find definitive answers to my philosophical questions. People have been chewing this fat for over two millennia, three or four if you believe some Chinese or Hindu accounts, and agreement still remains elusive. Modesty prevents me from thinking that I have found the TRUTH when so many better minds have not. What bothers me about the list just now is that it's always the same ideas, Grice or Popper or Kant or Wittgenstein in various permutations with no change in the hardened positions from which the usual suspects always begin. It's a lot more fun to go off and read Graham Harman's *Prince of Networks *about Bruno Latour. May be something to it, may be totally insane. But at least it's a change. Besides, it has taken me back to Whitehead, and *Science in the Modern World *has played, I now realise, a major role in how I see things. Cheers, John On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Life is life, but if I want to learn about fighting it's not here. At 43 > and with a drinking problem but also doing physical exercise I can still > fight (physically) with most people. Here I am hoping to learn something > about these damned ideas. > > O.K. > > > On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:49 AM, John McCreery < > john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Personally, I have learned a great deal from everyone here. Learning > doesn't always mean agreeing with. Just seems like life to me. > > John > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > > I propose that it's a bit late in the day that these dozen or so > contributors go at each other's throats. Possibly we may still learn > something from each other before our time is up. Or not. > > O.K. > > > > > -- > John McCreery > The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN > Tel. +81-45-314-9324 > jlm@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.wordworks.jp/ > > > -- John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 jlm@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.wordworks.jp/