[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Regarding Danish Grade 1

  • From: "Mike Sivill" <mike.sivill@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:21:16 -0700

Hi Daniel,
The accents for the O and A  did not come out in my e-mail. Are they
supposed to be  umlauts? Also, what are the dot patterns for the Braille
equivalents of these characters?
FYI You can add these characters yourself. 
In the Danish grade one table dn-dn-g1.utb you can add lines like the
following:
Opcode character-hex-value dot-numbers comment
For Example if I want to define the A-umlaut to be dots 345:
uplow \X00c4\X00e4 345 # A WITH UMLAUT
Uplow is the liblouis command for defining this as a character with both an
uppercase and lowercase  braille character with the same dot pattern.
\X00c4\X00e4  This is the hexidecimal value for first the uppercase A umlaut
and then the lowercase a umlaut. The values can be looked up in the standard
Unicode chart.
345 is the dot numbers assigned to this character. If you want more than one
braille cell, you can seperate  each cell with a hyphen.
The text after the number sign is a comment, reminding anyone who looks at
the file that this definition is for whatever character so they don't have
to look up the hexidecimal values in a unicode chart  to find out what is
being defined. 
If you update your own table please let us know on the list so they can be
included in the LibLouis project.

-----Original Message-----
From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Daniel K.
Gartmann
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 2:40 PM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Regarding Danish Grade 1


Hi Mike,

I have tried the 3 files you sent me that make up the Danish Grade 1 
table. I simply replaced the old files in NVDA with the files you sent me.

The 3 extra characters that are used in Danish are not showed 
correctly. The characters are:
"æ", "ø" and "å".

Right now, I don't know what we can do about this, but at least I have 
now communicated my latest findings. Hope we can resolve this somehow.

Best regards Daniel


Original message:
> Hi Daniel,
> Have you tried using the table from the LibLouis distribution package?
You
> might get better results. I'll attach the table I use with our ViewPlus
> software; it should be exactly the same as the LibLouis packaged table for
> Danish. I'm not sure how NVDA references the tables though so you might
have
> to re-name it to whatever NVDA looks for.
> Also, I am working on a Danish contracted Braille table. Would you be
> willing to test it when I'm finished?
> Thanks,
> Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J.
> Boyer
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 5:58 PM
> To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Regarding Danish Grade 1

> Daniel,

> What do you mean by NULL characters? The da-1252.ctb table looks like it
> was automatically generated from a brltty table. It is not suitable as a
> source of character definitions for the Grade 1 table. You will probably
> get more answers on Monday.

> John

> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 03:31:33PM -0400, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:
>> Hi,

>> I would like to suggest that the Danish grade 1 table contains a
>> reference to the table "da-1252....".

>> I am currently using the "da-1252" table under NVDA, and this table
>> looks ok except for some weird NULL characters. I am not sure if this
>> is caused by Liblouis or NVDA, but the NVDA developers have referred me
>> to this list, so I hope someone here would be willing to help me on this
>> one.

>> I am a native speaker of Danish and a proficient braille user, so I
>> would certainly like to do further testing.

>> Thanks and best regards

>> Daniel Gartmann

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