Folks, some thoughts in response to the interesting debate going on... David, I disagree about light leakage; I have only ever seen orange-biased flares of light from leakage, which, crucially, aren't in focus, whereas yours is blue-white and pretty much in focus. My guess is that you've picked up a reflection off something close by (car, or puddle, perhaps?) or else just caught the sun in the right place when you pressed the button. Wish lists for the R10: my guess is that Leica will have to do something radical if they are to survive. You can't sell 1950s or even 1990s technology for ever - your target audience changes over time, as well as other manufacturers' products advancing rapidly. It needs to be radical enough to not lose too many of the traditional Leica buyers, whilst attracting new, younger buyers. Quite a task! My R3s are both STILL in for repair. The first one has been for about 9 months now; the second one may be at the start of another such saga - who knows? Anyway, I have started a dialogue with my camera shop along the lines of can I put them, plus the new Fuji S5600 in part exchange for a new Fuji S9600. If he can do a reasonable deal - and he thinks so - I shall jump at the chance. Now the Fuji S9600 has many of the features that I want in a camera. It has PROPER manual modes for focus and zoom (twist rings) as well as full auto, fold-out LCD, shoots RAW, etc., etc. I couldn't make the lens on the S5600 flare even in bright sunlight without a lens hood, and the S9600 has a better lens still. It's fairly light and compact, although it's a bridge camera, with a big optical zoom range. What more can one ask? I shall keep the R-E and the IIIb though. Fold-out LCDs: I have seen flexible circuits last many years; the trick is the way they are flexed. If the bend is too sharp, and / or too large an angle, it will fatigue and break. But designed sensibly, there is no reason why it should fail. I suspect, however, that the LCD units contain a processor and display drivers, allowing serial data exchange, in which case, only three or four wires are needed. This means you don't have to use a flexible circuit, ordinary stranded wires will do. And, again, properly designed, long life is quite possible. The main reason, I suggest, for these things failing is that their manufacturers WANT them to fail - it's easy to persuade a customer that a new camera (or other electronic gismo) is preferable to an (expensive!) repair. And, finally, Made in Germany. German cars used to be a watchword for quality. No more! Germany has become so expensive as a manufacturing base, that inevitably corners are cut with quality. As an example, do a search on MB 350 Turbodiesel S-class on the net. There are several forums discussing the problems with that engine. An interesting comment is that Studer, the tape-recorder manufacturer, who used to build the Revox in the Black Forest, has closed down its manufacturing operation there, and moved back to Switzerland; it's cheaper! It simply wasn't viable to build them in the Black Forest, due to the high cost of labour, factory space, German Labour Laws. Leica may not do themselves any favours by trying to stick to 'Made in Germany'. No doubt we shall see... Regards all Keith Longmore ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/