[LRflex] Re: leicareflex Digest V4 #122
- From: Philippe Amard <phamard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 15:04:42 +0200
It's just the norm that has changed - think that a 100.000 km
trouble-free mileage was reserved to MB in the 60s and 70s. Others
struggled, in europe at least.
Times have changed and most manufacturers offer that too.
MB still produces top of the list cars, but the edge is nowadays far
less obvious for all to see.
Now the stakes for Leica are of the same kind: who cares that his/her
digital camera will still fire in 30 years' time, when the norms
(pixels, etc) will have changed so much that only collectors will keep
their first digital M or R , on display.
Yours
Phil...
FLAVIO GORI wrote:
>Keith,
>I don't know if we can assume Mercedes-Benz latest economic and
>financial history as a good comparing brand.
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>I understand that they are having important financial problems coming
>from expensive american brand acquisition and maybe even for the Smart
>car one. These actually give them additional trouble, probably they
>had to save money in any other ways.
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>Does not appear to me as a crisis in the German quality hand made
>cost, but rather a problem connected to bad oversea investment to be
>restored in all possible ways as fast as possible. Even "saving" in
>quality.
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>This is my personal view, of course.
>Regards.
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>Flavio
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>On 06/05/07, KEITH LONGMORE <keith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>Folks, some thoughts in response to the interesting debate going on...
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>>David, I disagree about light leakage; I have only ever seen
>>orange-biased flares of light from leakage, which, crucially, aren't in
>>focus, whereas yours is blue-white and pretty much in focus. My guess
>>is that you've picked up a reflection off something close by (car, or
>>puddle, perhaps?) or else just caught the sun in the right place when
>>you pressed the button.
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>>Wish lists for the R10: my guess is that Leica will have to do something
>>radical if they are to survive. You can't sell 1950s or even 1990s
>>technology for ever - your target audience changes over time, as well as
>>other manufacturers' products advancing rapidly. It needs to be radical
>>enough to not lose too many of the traditional Leica buyers, whilst
>>attracting new, younger buyers. Quite a task!
>>
>>My R3s are both STILL in for repair. The first one has been for about 9
>>months now; the second one may be at the start of another such saga -
>>who knows? Anyway, I have started a dialogue with my camera shop along
>>the lines of can I put them, plus the new Fuji S5600 in part exchange
>>for a new Fuji S9600. If he can do a reasonable deal - and he thinks so
>>- I shall jump at the chance. Now the Fuji S9600 has many of the
>>features that I want in a camera. It has PROPER manual modes for focus
>>and zoom (twist rings) as well as full auto, fold-out LCD, shoots RAW,
>>etc., etc. I couldn't make the lens on the S5600 flare even in bright
>>sunlight without a lens hood, and the S9600 has a better lens still.
>>It's fairly light and compact, although it's a bridge camera, with a big
>>optical zoom range. What more can one ask? I shall keep the R-E and
>>the IIIb though.
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>>Fold-out LCDs: I have seen flexible circuits last many years; the trick
>>is the way they are flexed. If the bend is too sharp, and / or too
>>large an angle, it will fatigue and break. But designed sensibly, there
>>is no reason why it should fail. I suspect, however, that the LCD units
>>contain a processor and display drivers, allowing serial data exchange,
>>in which case, only three or four wires are needed. This means you
>>don't have to use a flexible circuit, ordinary stranded wires will do.
>>And, again, properly designed, long life is quite possible. The main
>>reason, I suggest, for these things failing is that their manufacturers
>>WANT them to fail - it's easy to persuade a customer that a new camera
>>(or other electronic gismo) is preferable to an (expensive!) repair.
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>>And, finally, Made in Germany. German cars used to be a watchword for
>>quality. No more! Germany has become so expensive as a manufacturing
>>base, that inevitably corners are cut with quality. As an example, do a
>>search on MB 350 Turbodiesel S-class on the net. There are several
>>forums discussing the problems with that engine. An interesting comment
>>is that Studer, the tape-recorder manufacturer, who used to build the
>>Revox in the Black Forest, has closed down its manufacturing operation
>>there, and moved back to Switzerland; it's cheaper! It simply wasn't
>>viable to build them in the Black Forest, due to the high cost of
>>labour, factory space, German Labour Laws. Leica may not do themselves
>>any favours by trying to stick to 'Made in Germany'. No doubt we shall
>>see...
>>Regards all
>>Keith Longmore
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