On Jun 5, 2008, at 6:33 PM, Andy Wagner wrote:
TedWith conditions being what they are at work today(bad weather day at the airport) I'll have to keep this brief. IMHO In this instance I did not find the color distracting in any way nor was I drawn to the image because of the color. What I noticed was how I was drawn towards the light. I flipped between your shots and Steve's as a comparison and in both instances my eyes were drawn to a specific point in the picture by the light--once there I found I took in the full picture to acertain what was really going on. I cannot honestly say that I was drawn by either B&W or color. My feeling is when you are working on the level that you, Steve and others on this list are working on, it doesn't matter whether the picture is color, B&W or IR or what ever. You have the skills to convey the feeling and soul no matter what genre. Your shot of Ben Johnson comes to mind as an example, when I looked at it my eyes were drawn to the outstreched arm and extended finger, not the color. Admittedly the color adds a bit of a wow factor. But the skill levels here have progressed far above the old Nat Geo "red shirt" level. The "wow beautiful color" comments are something I personally save for when I'm viewing someones vacation snaps. Unfortunately for myself I'm still trying to master the basics "light eyes content. and then reproduce what I saw on the computer screen
Fascinating and thought provoking Andy, I thank you very much...I must say that the discussions we are having on this list are making it one of my absolute favorites, to get very thoughtful input and discussion...
I am in the Ted Grant school of photography... he is my mentor, and usually I automatically do bw work, always have, and this will not ever change...
usually I am arguing with my wife, ' cus she wants color and I always prefer bw...she wonders why...
so all this is of rare and surprising interest and concern, as a) these shots had a lot to offer in color, more than I expected...and B) while the color may be pleasant and add something, I don't want it to detract from the content and the message of the image....
so I am a bit confused on the one hand, by the praise, and on the other hand, by the feeling that the color may distract from the content, and the reason the image was made...
I generally don't take photos, because there are pretty colors; there are exceptions, but I usually prefer to stay away from that,
Steve Ted Grant <tedgrant@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Steve Barbour showed in colour: Subject: [LRflex] in the neurosurgical OR...4 images the surgeon... http://www.solio.us/gallery/PAW/thesurgeon the anesthesiologist... http://www.solio.us/gallery/PAW/anesthesiaOR I can do this with my eyes closed... http://www.solio.us/gallery/PAW/eyes the hands... http://www.solio.us/gallery/PAW/hands2 Hi Steve and others,Now we have an interesting potential for comparing colour image action in the OR with B&W in similar action by clicking on this site:http://www.tedgrantphoto.com/Medical%20Images.htmMost of the comments about Steve’s series and his stand alone hands have been.. “Nice colour Steve… love the colour…beautiful colour etc. etc. on colour.Hardly one comment about the “content, other than “playing cards!”Please understand this isn’t a hit on Steve’s photography, because he’s one cool shooter in any environment as we all know. But the opportunity for comparison why in some cases B&W is all about the content and not the emotional reactions of “looking at colour.”Black and White is intellectual: "I love black and white. It’s strong and powerful, it makes methink and truly look at the photograph. There are no colors getting in the way of what I am examining! No colour distractions to take your eyes away from the content or action!"Colour is sensual: Appealing to the eye/mental reaction of colour.Comments: "Oh, look at the colour." is a common remark, which in turn illustrates not seeing the content beyond the colour. Not always, because there are times when colour makes the picture. Sunsets, the clothes of India and many other “colour situations.”Now here we have added factors to our likes and dislikes of one over the other, or do we? So what say you folks?Is B&W intellectual and colour sensual?Are you more inclined to look at an image longer if it’s B&W? Or colour? Or does it depend on the subject contained in the exposure?tedwhich when I add this page of B&W we have an interesting comparison of colour vs B&W.Look here for B&W comparison images. ------ >-- Regards YXAndy
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