[LRflex] Was: Concentration; Now: Colour of light. (HELP!)
- From: David Young <dsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,leica@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:03:32 -0700
At 15/07/2008, you wrote:
Hi David,
Very interesting scene of the mill. I see you had some concern about
the light? Best advice I can give on this type of situation?
It's there and that's what it looks like on film or digi, so why try
to do anything with it? Which I assume you mean to bring it to a
better eye ball balanced look as you remember.
However, forget it, shoot it and get the right exposure that is far
more important. Everyone in the world will be quite amazed at your
ability to shoot under the kind of conditions you described and show.
Steel plants, refineries and you name of this ilk, when it comes
to these type of operations are lit differently. So its much better
getting a proper exposure and composition than being concerned
about the colour of the light.
That is of course unless you have a lighting crew of dozens who'll
strobe light the plant! J That's when you can think about light balance. J
Real life light? Heck just go with what's there on a perfect
exposure, smile and walk away with a beautiful photograph as you've
done here. J
ted
G'Mornin' Ted!
You mentioned the light ... your advice being just to "shoot and go".
But, the light I was referring to, was not the light in the photo of
the concentration mill (which I was able to correct, within
reason)... but to the light on the Ball/Sag Mill side. This is the
light you can see filtering through at the far left, in the
concentration shot, I posted.
http://www.furnfeather.net/Temps/Concentration.htm
The light on the Ball mill side is provided by some sort of lamps,
the likes of which I've not seen before. The images have a yellow
cast similar to that provided to daylight film when shot under
tungsten light, but much more so.
Experimentation has shown that the colours can be restored to some
semblance of what I remember by reducing the colour temperature to
2000 Kelvin (my RAW software, Silkypix, will not permit going any
lower). However, if I do this, although the colours come closer to
what I saw, they take on a surreal look. While the mill's walls are
starting to come close to their "natural" colour, the greens are
still too weak, and the yellows much too strong. Not to mention that
in spots, they disappear all together, when they really were there,
in the mill!
I have posted three versions of one shot in the ball/sag mill. The
left is as taken (3292 deg. K.), the center one is the best I've
managed, so far, with a colour temp of 2000K and, for comparison, a
b&w image, at the right.
All are at:
http://www.furnfeather.net/Temps/SagMill.htm
So, Ted, although you say get the perfect exposure, smile and walk
away ... would you provide the shot on the left to a client? I don't
feel that I could.
I would appreciate any help from the digi-wizards on the list who
understand these things. How do I make the colours at least near natural?
Many thanks.
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David Young,
Logan Lake, CANADA
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