Ola Group, I just read a 'post' in the M8 Forum section of L-Camera-Forum.Com and I 'have' to share it with my friends here: "Just take pictures. Don't argue about firmware, just take pictures. Don't argue about full frame, just take pictures. Don't argue about ASPH vs. non-ASPH, just take pictures. Don't argue about Leica vs. other, just take pictures. Don't fret about coding, non-OEM batteries, or the phase of the Moon, just take pictures. And remember, just take pictures. " Originally Posted by john_newell I don't think it's possible to state any more fully or succinctly that what matters is TAKING PICTURES!!! See it Feel it Shoot it. The friend who most influenced my full entry into photography and my subsequent growth into the photographer I became was actually a Lousy Photographer! He had high quality gear, shot 35, medium format, and 4x5, with a range of current and classic gear, but his obsessions with technique and using the right gear meant the subjects toward which he pointed his cameras and lenses came a distant third as a priority. No matter how special the person, the moment, or the scene, technique and gear were the 'Twin Beauties' ruling his photographic senses. He had a knack for making boring photographs of beautiful subjects. His heart wasn't in 'taking pictures' it was in using his cameras and his techniques. I 'cottoned' on to his terrible flaws early on when I used the Sigma Fisheye he'd loaned me to take a very, very good environmental portrait of him doing his 'job'. He thought I was a terrible photographer and it was a terrible photograph not because it was badly composed (it wasn't), or poorly timed (it was perfect), or didn't work as an image (it did). My unforgivable 'error' was not using the lenses' built in Tungsten Filter and ending up with a color cast in my final print. Nevermind that it would have cut my shutter speed (already a slow 1/15) by another stop and a half and pausing to do so would have meant missing the moment which presented itself. What mattered was that I did it wrong. He wouldn't accept the print when I offered it. I can trace the primacy I place on 'getting the shot' above all else when it comes to my photography back to that incident 20 some years ago. It took some time and some thinking and some growth to fully shape my thoughts on the matter, but Dennis's rant that evening proved to be a pivot point in my life. Richard in Michigan ________________________________ "There is a joy in taking photographs that will always be there, it is the joy of looking, of capturing that fraction of a second, it is the photographic shot, the intuitive shot..." (Henri Cartier-Bresson) ________________________________ â??No man hath given his child anything better than good manners.â?? - Prophet Muhammad (570-632) ________________________________ ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/