Gosh Art...I am sorry...too much wine over the grill...Not Nick of course...apologies... Elliot ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Puritz To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: [LRFlex] Re: Leica Projection sold off Not insane Nick, just creative!! Hire that man! BTW Nick...after about 25 years with the M system in various incarnations ( M6, TTL, M7, MP and many of the modern lenses ) I am shooting much more with the R8 and R9. The zoom lenses certainly makes things much easier with the Grand kids, and the fill in flash is simply great and so very easy. I am not ashamed to say that shooting in the P mode has simplified things tremendously, and does free one to simply press the shutter at the correct time with the confidence that the camera will almost certainly "do the rest". Not to put down the fabulous feel of the M series, but there are obviously applications in which the R series is better. Also, it is hard to beat the fabulous Apo 2.8/180 which is on one of the bodies almost all of the time. Were the new 35-70 not so darned expensive I would probably use it over the 28-70 which Mel Levy insisted I try. I must admit that I do not know why some criticize the 28-70. As Mel pointed out, it is useful to have the 28 ( rather then the 35 ) when one wants to go a bit wider, and the lens certainly provides crisp negatives. With reference to day to day use, Erwin himself I think has pointed out that the world of the lens tests is somewhat different from the world of the "shooter" in which the properties of the Leica lenses is rarely challenged in the extreme. Now about those ApoTelyts and the digital R back...I guess I'll have to hit the Florida lottery! Elliot ----- Original Message ----- From: NATSTEK@xxxxxxx To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 6:08 PM Subject: [LRFlex] Re: Leica Projection sold off I sure do hope so Elliot. But I think that we still have to talk BMW into buying Leica. I din't know if you remember their promo quite a few years back or not, but if you purchased an 800 Telyt, you received a coupon redeemable for an Audi Fox, "to Haul it in"!! Think of it, "Buy an R-9 package, including the digital Back-R, The APO Telyt System and the Motor Drive R-8/9 and receive a coupon for an M-3 to haul it in"!!!!!!! Of course, Doug Herr will concur that I am Certifiably "Insane", as will others in the group. Art