Worthy comment Richard, no problem with me. The circumstances (and here the geography/topography of the shoot) always play a role you are right. As to the distracting green OoF area I quite agree, but it was there and the owner, a gentle Swiss lady of 87 whom I know would have resented me felling it down ;) Yet, I might have closed down that's true, to the expense of getting the background sharp, which I absolutely didn't want. I bet a Leictilux 9 would have done the trick better ;-). http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/album368/2010-FF-Domestic+Wilderness-1010566.jpg. Now, cropping the left side out would destroy the balance as I focussed on the yellow flowers, would it not? Bin 13? No, a wonderful memory ;-) Thanks for your constructive and helpful comments, much appreciated and to be taken into account next time. Bien cordialement de Mutzenhouse Philippe Envoyé depuis Ma Messagerie SFR. 10 Go de stockage - en savoir plus. ======================================= Message du : 03/09/2010 De : "Richard Ward " <ilovaussiesheps@xxxxxxxxx> A : leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Copie à : Sujet : [LRflex] Re: IMG: FF -Swiss Tamed Wilderness Hello Philippe, I wanted to kick my '2 cents' out into the ether regarding the image you shared from 'your favorite garden on earth!' - "http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/album368/2010-FF-Domestic+Wilderness-1010566.jpg.html";. I do think you've got a fantastic little spot there for viewing, relaxing, and definitely for photography. My thoughts on the 'image' itself aren't quite so chipper though. To my eyes, the fairly prominent out-of-focus vegetation in the frame isn't adding anything to the image and actively subtracts from it by both being a blurry distraction itself and by pulling the viewers eyes up and out of exploring the dimensional relationships of the wall, the structure, and the flowers, in the scene. I'm not at all sure whether excluding that 'plant' or including it, but in a sharp manner was even an option for you at the time you captured the image, because I simply wasn't there and have no idea of the circumstances you were coping with. My comments are upon the image you shared and that blurry section looks out of place and is distracting to me as a viewer. I'm certain Dr. Ted likely can phrase the following information better than I will do so. I'm attempting to distill the advice of the learned grey beards in the Photo Program I studied in once upon a time and each re-write of this paragraph sounds worse than the last! Here Goes: The Viewer only has what You, the photographer, put in the Image you share with them. Whether the parts of the image are helpful or distracting, it's assumed their presence is by Choice and your Choices will be judged accordingly whether they enjoy that image or not. I hope I don't sound all harsh and judgemental communicating these opinions and thoughts like this. On a scale of 1-10, I think this garden image contains parts which make it a solid 9, easily, but that stray green patch knocks it way down on my list to a 5 or 6. Richard in Michigan llll________________________________ "There is a joy in taking photographs that will always be there, it is the joy of looking, of capturing that fraction of a second, it is the photographic shot, the intuitive shot..." (Henri Cartier-Bresson) ________________________________ â??No man hath given his child anything better than good manners.â?? - Prophet Muhammad (570-632) ________________________________ ________________________________ From: philippe.amard To: Leica Users Group ; leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 5:47:33 AM Subject: [LRflex] IMG: FF -Swiss Tamed Wilderness Back to flowers My favorite garden on earth. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/album368/2010-FF-Domestic+Wilderness-1010566.jpg.html I thought of Nathan when shooting this one ;-) One protects from mosquitos, the other can be useful for cycling too no? http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/album368/2010-FF-Geranium+and+pegs-1010568.jpg.html Bien cordialement de Metz Philippe NO ARCHIVE ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ NO ARCHIVE ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/