[LRflex] Re: Are On-The-Lens Filters Still Revelant With Digital Cameras?

  • From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 21:21:44 -0800

Hi Peter. Let me chime in on this. First of all, there is one filter that cannot be duplicated in post and that is the polarizer. With a lot of work you might come close, but your final recorded image has no record of what light was polarized and what was not. In film days, I had a PL filter on every lens I had since I shoot mostly nature stuff. I would take it off if I needed more light for some reason, but other than that it was my protection along with being a polarizer. With digital I have noticed that with my first Canon and then three Nikons, at elevation, it seems to be too strong a lot of the time. Not sure why the difference. Maybe a circular vs linear polarizer that I had on my old film cameras that were completely manual. That said, I often have PL’s on all my lenses unless I know I will not want one.
Next, I think that anything you can do before the sensor records the shot has the ability to improve the image, and anything you do after, in Post, will degrade the image as taken. That is not to say it won’t improve the looks, but it is still a degradation of the captured image. You are adding something or taking something away, altering pixles. So, with that in mind, filters are something to consider. One that comes to mind has been mentioned. The neutral density filters, either full, or split, hard or graduated. In the case of the split filters, these prevent you from having to do sever manipulations of darkening or lightening parts of the image, both of which will degrade the image to a greater or lesser extent depending on how much you need to change the local exposure. Introduces noise or other artifacts. If you can do it before you capture the image, you are better off.
So, those two filters are ones that everyone should consider.
Now, there are filters that we use to use for B&W. Yellow, orange, red among them. I have not tried them with digital, but I am tempted to try a yellow or red when I am shooting something I intend to turn to B&W. I have noticed, at least in LR and PS, if you convert to B&W then attempt to really darken the sky by adjusting the blue component, I get all kinds of artifacts around fine detail like branches, or at sharp boundaries like the tops of mountains and the sky. The sky darkens, but the branches/mountains have a bright line halo effect around them. I have not been able to get rid of that. Maybe it is my ignorance. I have been wondering if I had shot that with a red filter then converted the image to B&W if I would still have that same effect or if I would get a nice dark sky to accentuate the branches/mountains the way it works with film. I don’t have any large red filters as I never had any zooms when I shot film. Only smaller filter primes. Has anyone tried this? Of course, if you are lucky enough to have a Monochrom, you need to do this with filters as there are no color channels to manipulate in post.
Then there are special effect filters like soft focus, star, etc, some which you may be able to duplicate in post and some not.
So, that is my take on filters. Polarizer and ND, definitely. Others, maybe.

-----Original Message----- From: Peter Stevens (Redacted sender "fritzj3" for DMARC)
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 4:00 AM
To: Leicareflex Photo Group
Subject: [LRflex] Are On-The-Lens Filters Still Revelant With Digital Cameras?

Good morning to everyone. A question for the group. Does anyone use on-the-lens filters with their digital body/lens combos? If so, what filters do you use and why? I was wondering earlier this morning, with the sophistication of digital editing, if the contol available in the software minimizes or eliminates the application of lens filters? I’m not educated enough to know if the software will replicate things like, for example, the polarization with regards to minimizing or removing reflections on water and glass surfaces, or if the control of light provided by a Neutral Density screw-on filter can be replicated or not in post-processing. Are there things that software just can’t provide a substitute for? Thanks.

Best regards,
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