Wise. ;-)
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 9:14 PM Aram Langhans <leica_r8@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I steer clear of those beasts, so I don’t need a special Llama filter. I--
do have an ugly filter for when taking people photos but haven’t used it on
digital. I use Lightroom’s Ugly slider.
Aram
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Yeah, but Aram didn’t tell you about the llama situation. ;-)
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 8:50 PM Peter Stevens <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Wow! Thanks, Bill, for that correction. I got lost in the authorship ofRegards,
the messages by not following the thread as closely as I should have.
Aram, buddy, sorry about that! Thanks for your comments and input. I very
much appreciate it, and I apologise for my confusion in not acknowledging
you initially.
Best regards,
Peter S.
On Feb 17, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Bill Abbott 3 <captbilly3@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
from Aram.
Peter,
For the record, this excellent and helpful advice about filters was
for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bill
On Feb 17, 2020, at 15:18, Peter Stevens (Redacted sender "fritzj3"
wrote:
Thank you very much, Bill. I appreciate your insights and advice.
Best regards,
Peter S.
On Feb 16, 2020, at 12:21 AM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8@xxxxxxxxxxx>
filter that cannot be duplicated in post and that is the polarizer. With a
Hi Peter. Let me chime in on this. First of all, there is one
lot of work you might come close, but your final recorded image has no
record of what light was polarized and what was not. In film days, I had a
PL filter on every lens I had since I shoot mostly nature stuff. I would
take it off if I needed more light for some reason, but other than that it
was my protection along with being a polarizer. With digital I have
noticed that with my first Canon and then three Nikons, at elevation, it
seems to be too strong a lot of the time. Not sure why the difference.
Maybe a circular vs linear polarizer that I had on my old film cameras that
were completely manual. That said, I often have PL’s on all my lenses
unless I know I will not want one.
shot has the ability to improve the image, and anything you do after, inNext, I think that anything you can do before the sensor records the
Post, will degrade the image as taken. That is not to say it won’t improve
the looks, but it is still a degradation of the captured image. You are
adding something or taking something away, altering pixles. So, with that
in mind, filters are something to consider. One that comes to mind has
been mentioned. The neutral density filters, either full, or split, hard
or graduated. In the case of the split filters, these prevent you from
having to do sever manipulations of darkening or lightening parts of the
image, both of which will degrade the image to a greater or lesser extent
depending on how much you need to change the local exposure. Introduces
noise or other artifacts. If you can do it before you capture the image,
you are better off.
red among them. I have not tried them with digital, but I am tempted toSo, those two filters are ones that everyone should consider.
Now, there are filters that we use to use for B&W. Yellow, orange,
try a yellow or red when I am shooting something I intend to turn to B&W.
I have noticed, at least in LR and PS, if you convert to B&W then attempt
to really darken the sky by adjusting the blue component, I get all kinds
of artifacts around fine detail like branches, or at sharp boundaries like
the tops of mountains and the sky. The sky darkens, but the
branches/mountains have a bright line halo effect around them. I have not
been able to get rid of that. Maybe it is my ignorance. I have been
wondering if I had shot that with a red filter then converted the image to
B&W if I would still have that same effect or if I would get a nice dark
sky to accentuate the branches/mountains the way it works with film. I
don’t have any large red filters as I never had any zooms when I shot
film. Only smaller filter primes. Has anyone tried this? Of course, if
you are lucky enough to have a Monochrom, you need to do this with filters
as there are no color channels to manipulate in post.
some which you may be able to duplicate in post and some not.Then there are special effect filters like soft focus, star, etc,
Others, maybe.So, that is my take on filters. Polarizer and ND, definitely.
"fritzj3" for DMARC)
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Cameras?Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 4:00 AM
To: Leicareflex Photo Group
Subject: [LRflex] Are On-The-Lens Filters Still Revelant With Digital
on-the-lens filters with their digital body/lens combos? If so, what
Good morning to everyone. A question for the group. Does anyone use
filters do you use and why? I was wondering earlier this morning, with the
sophistication of digital editing, if the contol available in the software
minimizes or eliminates the application of lens filters? I’m not educated
enough to know if the software will replicate things like, for example, the
polarization with regards to minimizing or removing reflections on water
and glass surfaces, or if the control of light provided by a Neutral
Density screw-on filter can be replicated or not in post-processing. Are
there things that software just can’t provide a substitute for? Thanks.
Best regards,
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