[LRflex] Re: A conundrum...

  • From: David Young <dsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:30:14 -0800

Good evening, Bill!

Not only was the Technicolor System 1 (1917) a two colour process, but it's 
predecessor, Kinemacolor (1908) was a two colour process, as well.

I need to read up, more, on Edwin Land.

David.




> David,
>
> I agree with you and I hope many of our Flexer friends will watch it. It 
> changed my whole way of thinking about how I see color. Land was indeed a 
> genius.
>
> Our wonderful color sensors, monitors and printers do an amazing job of 
> giving us images that closely appear to us as if we are looking at the real 
> world.
>
> It also gives us a hint as to why the original Technicolor was a two-color 
> process, with only red and green channels, which was pretty good.
> Later, a third film strip for blue was added.
>
> For more on that go to:
>
> http://www.reelclassics.com/Techtalk/technicolor-article.htm
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
>
>
>> On Jan 19, 2015, at 20:17, David Young <dsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bill!
>>
>> Now that video should be required viewing for any and every photographer!  
>> VERY interesting stuff ... most of which I'd never heard of, despite being 
>> shooting for nearly 55 years!
>>
>> Thanks, so much, for the link!
>>
>> David.
>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 19, 2015, at 08:04, David Young <dsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But when Bill reported he saw the correct colours, in both shots, I was 
>>>> beginning to question my sanity.  Now, at least, I can question the sanity 
>>>> of both of us!  -)
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I represent that remark!
>>>
>>> But seriously, I don't believe that there are "correct" colors, only the 
>>> representations created in each of our brains under varying conditions of 
>>> lighting, sensors, computer programs, monitors, etc. The colors we see are 
>>> not determined by the physics of light but by neurological processes in 
>>> each of our individual brains.
>>>
>>> No color is "correct," but all colors are real to the beholder, one  
>>> illustration being the differences between what color blind humans and we 
>>> normally sighted persons see.
>>>
>>> Edwin Land (of Polaroid fame) tackled this paradox and showed that "color" 
>>> that we "see" is not a function the wave lengths of light reflected from an 
>>> object but is constructed in our brains. This effect is called color 
>>> consistency, the way we consistently "see" the colors in a scene as the 
>>> illumination changes in wave length.
>>>
>>> He showed this very clearly in a video titled "Colorful Notions" which was 
>>> aired by BBC and also in the US on Public Broadcasting in the 1980s.
>>>
>>> You can see the video on Vimeo at
>>>
>>>> https://vimeo.com/11932120
>>>
>>> The video will add unexpected layer of mystery to your understanding of the 
>>> way all of us "see" color.
>>>
>>> The fact that you and I and others "see" different colors of the 
>>> (approximately) same image must take into account that each of us possesses 
>>> a unique set of rods and cones in our eyes and different brains.
>>>
>>> I do not claim that it solves your red-orange-black problem but only that 
>>> the neurological processes by which each of us individuals see color must 
>>> play a part somehow. More than that I cannot say.
>>>
>>> I hope that you find the video interesting.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
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