Hi Axel. Not home yet, but took a few shots with the 50 so you could see the results http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/w2010/misc/untitled-0921.jpg.html http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/w2010/misc/untitled-0942.jpg.html View large, as I made them pretty big for you to examine. I had posted some earlier with the 35-70, but here are some again. Not large. If you want them larger, let me know. The seagulls on this page were all made with the 35-70 aiming almost directly into the almost setting sun. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/w2010/bea/ Aram -------------------------------------------------- From: "Axel Collier" <axel.collier@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:08 PM To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [LRflex] Re: walk around lens R3 (was: Anyone using Angenieux) > Thank you Aram > I look forward to your pictures > greetings, Axel ;-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:45 PM > Subject: [LRflex] Re: walk around lens R3 (was: Anyone using Angenieux) > > >>I will post photos from both as soon as I am able. I will be on vacation >> about a week or so more. I do have both with me, so I can shoot them on >> my >> D7000 and put some up if I get a chance before I return home. >> >> The nice thing about your choices is that there really are no bad ones. >> Well, maybe the early non-Leica zooms. But as far as most Leica lenses, >> they will all perform above the fray. I am seeing that with Nikon, and >> earlier, Canon, it is hard to know which are good and which are bad, and >> which are consistant (ie. can have bad samples and good samples of the >> same >> lens). I never doubted that if I bought Leica glass it would be a good >> copy >> and it would meet or exceed my abilities as a photographer. >> >> I think I would start with the zoom, since it will fit a variety of >> shooting >> styles and situations. Then if you find you need faster glass, start to >> buy >> some primes at the focal lengths that you are using most often in those >> situations. Never thought I'd find myself recommending a zoom before. >> Certainly never did in my 40 or so years of shooting. Only bought the >> 35-70 >> the last year or so of my dedicated film shooting days, that is to say >> maybe >> 4 years ago. >> >> Aram >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Axel Collier" <axel.collier@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:37 AM >> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [LRflex] Re: walk around lens R3 (was: Anyone using Angenieux) >> >>> Thank you Aram >>> thanks everybody for the beautifull pictures and the interesting >>> comments. >>> One day i want to be as good as you guys, but i am only addicted since >>> two >>> years, so i guess i have some time left to catch up ;-) >>> This is not a walk in the park for me, but i will do my best to >>> communicate what i want. >>> @ Richard from Michigan and Douglas >>> "I'd suggest asking what kind of 'walking around' is it you most >>> frequently do." I agree that is a key question. >>> But I am afraid there is no easy answer. I take pictures everywhere and >>> all the time .. Mostly people, dogs in action, cycling, low light >>> situations, but also nature ... >>> If I were only interested in one kind of photography, it would be >>> easier. >>> Take a look at my Flickr page if you want to know more. >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/44847726@N08/ >>> (Do not take my first film experiments to seriously, i only wanted to >>> try >>> things etc. Take a look at my sets, at the right of the screen, I think >>> that says it all ... ) >>> I agree with Richard (and others like Herman) that primes are important >>> tools, he likes them and so do I ! >>> I agree with Dougles (and 'ultra wild' Philippe) about the wider angles. >>> I >>> like them a lot. Beautifull pictures Douglas, very nice. I have a 24mm >>> Ais >>> Nikon, manual focus off course, not since long, but I use it with my >>> FE-Nikon, and i love it. 24mm is wide enough for me to get the feeling. >>> What would 19mm be like ???? I wonder. >>> But sometimes you need a zoom just to get the (a?) shot ... >>> If Gary, Aram, Robert, and William are convinced that the 35-70mm f4 is >>> great, it must be very very good ;-) >>> I do not want to start a debate 'primes vs. zooms'. >>> So maybee i should get both ?! >>> But i have to start somewhere. >>> So maybee you can send me some pictures. I want to know which lens would >>> give me the best Leica look for the money. >>> Is it a 19mm, a 28mm, a 35mm f2, a 50mm summicron, the 35-70mm? >>> Show me some of your work, pictures that are different, that i think >>> will >>> help me best >>> Aram for example has the zoom and the prime ... He could send me >>> pictures >>> of both ? >>> thank you so much in advance >>> greetings, Axel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:41 PM >>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: walk around lens R3 (was: Anyone using Angenieux) >>> >>> >>>> You have to decide for yourself which will suite your needs most, but >>>> IMHO, >>>> you cannot go wrong with either the 50/2 or the 35-70/4. I have both. >>>> I >>>> have to admit since I got the zoom, the 50 only sees action if I need >>>> the >>>> lens speed. Same thing with my 35/2. >>>> >>>> Aram >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Axel Collier" <axel.collier@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:09 AM >>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: walk around lens R3 (was: Anyone using Angenieux) >>>> >>>>> Maybee i should restart here >>>>> I want a walk around lens for my R3 >>>>> it should be less than 600 euros >>>>> I want the best possible 'Leica look' for the money. I do not mind >>>>> having >>>>> another prime, but in this case maybe a zoom would be better. My >>>>> options >>>>> so >>>>> far (thanks to you guys) : >>>>> 1. Angenieux 35-70 : not cheaper, not better than Leica zooms, just >>>>> different, bit kinky build (not my words ;-) ) >>>>> 2.Leica 35-70 f4 : within price range, very nice pictures, plenty >>>>> available. >>>>> F4 ! (DOF, light needed) but zoom ! Picture quality comparable to the >>>>> very >>>>> nice summicron pictures ... >>>>> 3. summicron 50mm : faster and 'cheaper' No zoom off course. >>>>> At the moment i lean toward the leica 35-70 f4, because i already own >>>>> very >>>>> nice nikon 35mm and 50mm 1.8 primes, but i do not own a zoom in that >>>>> range. >>>>> Other thoughts ???? >>>>> Is the version of these lenses important ? Do i need rom ? Is summilux >>>>> much >>>>> better ? Would i be happy with the 35-70mm f3.5 ? >>>>> thank you, Axel >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "William B. Abbott III" <captbilly3@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:32 PM >>>>> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Anyone using Angenieux converted to N... over >>>>> here? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 2:20 AM, Axel Collier wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> who is happy with the 35-70mm f4 >>>>>> >>>>>> Axel, >>>>>> >>>>>> I used one for years with results that pleased me; it was a very good >>>>>> walking around lens for my R4 and R7, less so because of crop factor >>>>>> for >>>>>> the R9/DMG. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ >>>>>> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >>>>>> http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ >>>>>> Archives are at: >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ >>>>> >>>>> ------ >>>>> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >>>>> http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ >>>>> Archives are at: >>>>> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ >>>>> >>>> ------ >>>> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >>>> http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ >>>> Archives are at: >>>> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ >>> ------ >>> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >>> http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ >>> Archives are at: >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ >>> >> ------ >> Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: >> http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ >> Archives are at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/