I've had similar trouble with my Legend, balky controls - especially the thumb click stick. But fortunately they never have lasted long or been too onerous. I'm hanging onto it until the 60csx has established itself, or maybe something dual compatible with the European system too is available. Cheers, Bluelamb03 ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen Baker To: geoqueont@xxxxxxxx Cc: kag@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: [kag] My e-trex legend and I are not getting along. 1) turn it on 2) whack it on something hard to get the buttons working We are now good to go and if I remember correctly, it will work till I turn if off, then we repeat steps 1 & 2. Needless to say, I will not go out in the bush with just this unit and do not wish to buy another at the present time. Maybe Binrat will get tired of his 60C and want to upgrade in the near future. Does anybody else have this problem? and if so how do you fix it? Geogranny