[jhb] Re: WT Pirep
- From: "Fossil" <fossil@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:10:10 +0100
Thanks Fred.
When you book your PIREP hours always put down the real flying time so you
don't lose out on your hours. When I process the pirep it warns me that the
hours aren't right but I can override this.
bones
bones@xxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Fred Stopforth
Sent: 15 April 2010 13:18
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: WT Pirep
My WT flight CYXY > PANC was broken up by a few mins of sorting T/S because
only 3 greens would register instead of 4 even though IVAO 'EYE' showed me
as active and connected.Problem sorted with J Hill's help so I booked in my
actual flying time 2hrs32mins. Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:08 PM
Subject: [jhb] Re: VFR Flight
> I've had a snotty conversation with a Dutch chap who says their airfield
> database is perfect. I've told him that the database listed on the IVAO
> site
> is correct but that the PIREP system is using something different - but he
> doesn't believe me.
>
> bones
> bones@xxxxxxx
> http://woodair.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Fred Stopforth
> Sent: 14 August 2008 14:04
> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb] Re: VFR Flight
>
> It's happened again on Pirep.Did EGSA --> EGSP. EGSP is down as
> Connington
> / EGSF as Sibson. Good job I've got my VFR map. Summat needs updating.
> Fred
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:02 PM
> Subject: [jhb] Re: VFR Flight
>
>
>> IVAO need to get their data up to date - Bedford closed a long, long time
>> ago. I'll bet EGTH also throws up Hatfield instead of Old Warden.
>>
>> The CAA don't reissue old codes for at least ten years so it shows you
>> how
>> old data still gets left around.
>>
>> bones
>> bones@xxxxxxx
>> http://woodair.net
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Fred Stopforth
>> Sent: 10 August 2008 19:10
>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jhb] Re: VFR Flight
>>
>> Bones, Just done EGSN --> EGSA . Put EGSV Old Buckenham as Alt Dest but
>> the
>> IVAO setup on the PIREP registers EGSV as Bedford / Thurleigh . ??? Fred
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:10 AM
>> Subject: [jhb] Re: back home
>>
>>
>>> Welcome back Fred. Last night was awful in the UK - only a small handful
>>> of
>>> pilots online in total and only Mike popped into the IOM.
>>>
>>> bones
>>> bones@xxxxxxx
>>> http://woodair.net
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Fred Stopforth
>>> Sent: 06 August 2008 23:46
>>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: back home
>>>
>>> Hi Bones,Back home after a good 6 days in Madrid and will be reporting
>>> for
>>> duty when am sorted after looking thro the e-mail sack. Fred
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:18 PM
>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Farmstrips
>>>
>>>
>>>> Without photo scenery VFR navigation is limited to coastlines or other
>>>> prominent features.
>>>>
>>>> The VFR England and Wales scenery made VFR navigation possible in FS98
>>>> but
>>>> it was slightly too easy. Our towns and motorways stood out quite
>>>> clearly
>>>> from the default landclass so anyone with a reasonable idea of
>>>> geography
>>>> could get around quite well. Once Mally brought out the photo scenery
>>>> the
>>>> full complexity of ground features was there to see and map reading
>>>> became
>>>> as difficult in FS as in real life.
>>>>
>>>> Map reading is a tricky skill to learn and I suspect many FS pilots
>>>> don't
>>>> fully embrace it. I'm sure many have the navaids or GPS on in the
>>>> background
>>>> and take a quick peek from time to time as a cross check. The downside
>>>> to
>>>> this is that although comforting to do at the time it stops you
>>>> building
>>>> confidence in your VFR skills.
>>>>
>>>> One of the bad things about FS is that it leads users up the garden
>>>> path.
>>>> It
>>>> gives you the impression that all aircraft are fitted with full ADF,
>>>> VOR,
>>>> ILS, DME and GPS nav kit and most have autopilots. If only. The Cessna
>>>> aircraft I learned on had nothing but a radio and an aircraft fitted
>>>> with
>>>> an
>>>> ADF was a luxury - and early ADF's were tuneable too so you had to be
>>>> VERY
>>>> careful to tune in to the right beacon.
>>>>
>>>> My longest pure VFR flights were from Hawarden to White Waltham in a
>>>> Chipmunk without any navaids and from Shannon to Ronaldsway in a PA28
>>>> that
>>>> had a VOR but it had failed the day before when landing at Kerry. In
>>>> both
>>>> cases it was back to pure map reading for the flights - and in both
>>>> cases
>>>> I
>>>> didn't fly a direct line between the two airfields but plotted a course
>>>> to
>>>> pick up easily identifiable ground features. This is how..
>>>>
>>>> On departure from Chester I headed south to Wrexham then past Chirk and
>>>> Rednal. At Rednal pick up the railway line to Shrewsbury and then
>>>> continue
>>>> SE to pick up the Severn at Bridgenorth. Follow the Severn all the way
>>>> down
>>>> to Worcester (dead easy that bit). At Worcester pick up the railway
>>>> line
>>>> that runs east through Evesham and curves south through Moreton in the
>>>> Marsh
>>>> and Oxford. At Oxford pickup the M40 and once you cross the ridge of
>>>> the
>>>> Chilterns turn south to Henley. Don't beat up the boats. At Henley turn
>>>> east
>>>> and White Waltham is 3nm ahead.
>>>>
>>>> With no Ireland photo scenery the Shannon trip isn't worth going into
>>>> detail
>>>> but I did much the same thing and followed the Shannon river all the
>>>> way
>>>> to
>>>> Athlone and then turned right to Mullingar and Dublin.
>>>>
>>>> On a nice day VFR flying is a delight. If the cloud is low or
>>>> visibility
>>>> is
>>>> poor it can be one of the toughest tasks in aviation - and that's the
>>>> rub.
>>>> VFR pilots have a weather sense that must be a close second to any
>>>> sailor
>>>> as
>>>> both may have their lives resting on their interpretation of the charts
>>>> or
>>>> what they see ahead. VFR and weather go hand in hand and your skills in
>>>> knowing the latter develop your abilities with the former.
>>>>
>>>> This very essential pairing is missing from FS because you don't get
>>>> any
>>>> impression how frightening weather is. Everyone in FS flies into cloud
>>>> as
>>>> if
>>>> it's no big deal - and it isn't because all aircraft fly perfectly,
>>>> have
>>>> no
>>>> tendency to roll or yaw, all have autopilot and totally reliable
>>>> instruments. It's so easy that you cannot even begin to perceive how
>>>> different it is in real life. Two things here - only skilled pilots go
>>>> into
>>>> cloud and they also realise that once in cloud any VFR navigation is
>>>> impossible and can revert to IFR skills. Most basic PPL's don't have
>>>> these
>>>> skills unless they've done the IMC Rating or I/R courses.
>>>>
>>>> A little test for you all. Next time you see some cloud ahead in FS
>>>> turn
>>>> the
>>>> autopilot off and see how hard it is to maintain height and heading. If
>>>> you
>>>> find it hard remember that most GA pilots have to do the same - except
>>>> the
>>>> lucky few with wing levellers.
>>>>
>>>> As a real skill test repeat the above but go into your FS settings and
>>>> fail
>>>> the artificial horizon. The last is not an exercise in skill but to see
>>>> how
>>>> long you last before you lose control. This last exercise is to show
>>>> you
>>>> what happens when an untrained pilot accidentally flies into cloud and,
>>>> for
>>>> those that luckily survive this experience, why they stay well away
>>>> from
>>>> it.
>>>> Only basic instrument skills are taught in the PPL and so such pilots
>>>> live
>>>> in a permanent VFR world and shun cloud and bad visibility. Instrument
>>>> skills are part of advanced training but only a fraction of all PPL's
>>>> go
>>>> down this route.
>>>>
>>>> bones
>>>> bones@xxxxxxx
>>>> http://woodair.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Frank Turley
>>>> Sent: 31 July 2008 21:01
>>>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Farmstrips
>>>>
>>>> Paul,
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure that's true, the photo-scenery allows us to navigate to the
>>>> strips
>>>> using the charts or a good road atlas. How they manage VFR in the areas
>>>> without photoscenery I don't know.
>>>>
>>>> I guess that's why IVAO is dominated by big tin.
>>>>
>>>> Frank T.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Paul Reynolds" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:05 PM
>>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Farmstrips
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Having installed the FSX strips onto a non Gen-X system, they are
>>>>> unusable. The agn, because they are tied to Gen-X bgl files do not
>>>>> show.
>>>>> Instead I get the default autogen which sees trees and buildings in
>>>>> places
>>>>
>>>>> they just ought not to be.
>>>>>
>>>>> As an experiment, I used ADE to create an autogen exclude polygon for
>>>>> Alcester along and just beyond the runway but without the visual
>>>>> references provided by the Gen-X scenery (eg. the A435, the town and
>>>>> the
>>>>> river) the field is impossible to find.
>>>>>
>>>>> My conclusion is that while the files could be made default FSX SP2
>>>>> compatible, without using an unreasonably large exclude file to make
>>>>> the
>>>>> field more visible and with no supporting visual referencing to find
>>>>> the
>>>>> strips I'm not sure it's worth doing. I say this not because it's not
>>>>> feasible but because the whole point of using the farm strips is as an
>>>>> exercise in VFR. As the default SP2 FSX does not sufficiently support
>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> other elements needed for reasonable quality VFR in the UK they just
>>>>> become landing strips with the actual navigation and visual
>>>>> referencing
>>>>> enroute missing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Gerry Winskill" <gwinsk@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:21 PM
>>>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Farmstrips
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Branscome was in my list to do, for the batch I've just released. The
>>>>>> problem is that the better visibillity in the Horizon scenery, and
>>>>>> Google
>>>>
>>>>>> Earth, shows I'd need to re do the whole thing. The runway is longer
>>>>>> than
>>>>
>>>>>> could be seen in FS9. It also goes downhill and because of that, from
>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>> angle the shots are taken, appears to be curved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll put it in the next batch though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got several lists of the ones I've done; out of necessity. A
>>>>>> number
>>>>>> in excess of 100 is etched on my brain. Rather like the scars that I
>>>>>> assume adorn the F1 chief! Less fun though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerry Winskill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank Turley wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Gerry,
>>>>>>> I've just done an inventory on my system, I have -
>>>>>>> Farms FS9 Plus - 14 fields
>>>>>>> Farms FSX - 21 fields
>>>>>>> UK Farmstrips - 48 fields
>>>>>>> Old ones from FS9 - 7 fields
>>>>>>> Total 90 fields
>>>>>>> The old ones are Alder Hall, Ashleys Field, Branscombe, Garston
>>>>>>> Farm,
>>>>>>> Manor Farm Collingbourne and another Manor Farm.
>>>>>>> I have a spreadsheet listing them in Excel 2007, if you'd like a
>>>>>>> copy
>>>>>>> or a csv version.
>>>>>>> Incidentally, I recall you asking for requests for the next ones, I
>>>>>>> think the place where we had the fly-in would be good - Gunton
>>>>>>> Park -
>>>>>>> but we may need to wait for FS11 before you are able to animate the
>>>>>>> deer
>>>>
>>>>>>> off the runway!
>>>>>>> Frank T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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