My WT flight CYXY > PANC was broken up by a few mins of sorting T/S because only 3 greens would register instead of 4 even though IVAO 'EYE' showed me as active and connected.Problem sorted with J Hill's help so I booked in my actual flying time 2hrs32mins. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:08 PM Subject: [jhb] Re: VFR Flight
I've had a snotty conversation with a Dutch chap who says their airfielddatabase is perfect. I've told him that the database listed on the IVAO siteis correct but that the PIREP system is using something different - but he doesn't believe me. bones bones@xxxxxxx http://woodair.net -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fred Stopforth Sent: 14 August 2008 14:04 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: VFR FlightIt's happened again on Pirep.Did EGSA --> EGSP. EGSP is down as Connington/ EGSF as Sibson. Good job I've got my VFR map. Summat needs updating. Fred----- Original Message ----- From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:02 PM Subject: [jhb] Re: VFR FlightIVAO need to get their data up to date - Bedford closed a long, long time ago. I'll bet EGTH also throws up Hatfield instead of Old Warden.The CAA don't reissue old codes for at least ten years so it shows you howold data still gets left around. bones bones@xxxxxxx http://woodair.net -----Original Message-----From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf Fred Stopforth Sent: 10 August 2008 19:10 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: VFR Flight Bones, Just done EGSN --> EGSA . Put EGSV Old Buckenham as Alt Dest but the IVAO setup on the PIREP registers EGSV as Bedford / Thurleigh . ??? Fred----- Original Message ----- From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:10 AM Subject: [jhb] Re: back homeWelcome back Fred. Last night was awful in the UK - only a small handful of pilots online in total and only Mike popped into the IOM. bones bones@xxxxxxx http://woodair.net -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fred Stopforth Sent: 06 August 2008 23:46 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: back home Hi Bones,Back home after a good 6 days in Madrid and will be reporting for duty when am sorted after looking thro the e-mail sack. Fred----- Original Message ----- From: "Bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:18 PM Subject: [jhb] Re: UK FarmstripsWithout photo scenery VFR navigation is limited to coastlines or other prominent features. The VFR England and Wales scenery made VFR navigation possible in FS98 but it was slightly too easy. Our towns and motorways stood out quite clearlyfrom the default landclass so anyone with a reasonable idea of geographycould get around quite well. Once Mally brought out the photo scenery the full complexity of ground features was there to see and map reading became as difficult in FS as in real life. Map reading is a tricky skill to learn and I suspect many FS pilots don't fully embrace it. I'm sure many have the navaids or GPS on in the background and take a quick peek from time to time as a cross check. The downside tothis is that although comforting to do at the time it stops you buildingconfidence in your VFR skills. One of the bad things about FS is that it leads users up the garden path. It gives you the impression that all aircraft are fitted with full ADF, VOR, ILS, DME and GPS nav kit and most have autopilots. If only. The Cessna aircraft I learned on had nothing but a radio and an aircraft fitted with an ADF was a luxury - and early ADF's were tuneable too so you had to be VERY careful to tune in to the right beacon. My longest pure VFR flights were from Hawarden to White Waltham in a Chipmunk without any navaids and from Shannon to Ronaldsway in a PA28 that had a VOR but it had failed the day before when landing at Kerry. In both cases it was back to pure map reading for the flights - and in both cases I didn't fly a direct line between the two airfields but plotted a course to pick up easily identifiable ground features. This is how.. On departure from Chester I headed south to Wrexham then past Chirk and Rednal. At Rednal pick up the railway line to Shrewsbury and then continue SE to pick up the Severn at Bridgenorth. Follow the Severn all the way downto Worcester (dead easy that bit). At Worcester pick up the railway linethat runs east through Evesham and curves south through Moreton in the Marshand Oxford. At Oxford pickup the M40 and once you cross the ridge of theChilterns turn south to Henley. Don't beat up the boats. At Henley turn east and White Waltham is 3nm ahead. With no Ireland photo scenery the Shannon trip isn't worth going into detailbut I did much the same thing and followed the Shannon river all the wayto Athlone and then turned right to Mullingar and Dublin.On a nice day VFR flying is a delight. If the cloud is low or visibilityis poor it can be one of the toughest tasks in aviation - and that's the rub. VFR pilots have a weather sense that must be a close second to any sailor as both may have their lives resting on their interpretation of the charts or what they see ahead. VFR and weather go hand in hand and your skills in knowing the latter develop your abilities with the former.This very essential pairing is missing from FS because you don't get anyimpression how frightening weather is. Everyone in FS flies into cloud as ifit's no big deal - and it isn't because all aircraft fly perfectly, haveno tendency to roll or yaw, all have autopilot and totally reliable instruments. It's so easy that you cannot even begin to perceive how different it is in real life. Two things here - only skilled pilots go into cloud and they also realise that once in cloud any VFR navigation is impossible and can revert to IFR skills. Most basic PPL's don't have these skills unless they've done the IMC Rating or I/R courses.A little test for you all. Next time you see some cloud ahead in FS turnthe autopilot off and see how hard it is to maintain height and heading. If you find it hard remember that most GA pilots have to do the same - except the lucky few with wing levellers. As a real skill test repeat the above but go into your FS settings and fail the artificial horizon. The last is not an exercise in skill but to see howlong you last before you lose control. This last exercise is to show youwhat happens when an untrained pilot accidentally flies into cloud and, forthose that luckily survive this experience, why they stay well away fromit. Only basic instrument skills are taught in the PPL and so such pilots live in a permanent VFR world and shun cloud and bad visibility. Instrumentskills are part of advanced training but only a fraction of all PPL's godown this route. bones bones@xxxxxxx http://woodair.net -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Turley Sent: 31 July 2008 21:01 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Farmstrips Paul, I'm sure that's true, the photo-scenery allows us to navigate to the strips using the charts or a good road atlas. How they manage VFR in the areas without photoscenery I don't know. I guess that's why IVAO is dominated by big tin. Frank T.----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Reynolds" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:05 PM Subject: [jhb] Re: UK FarmstripsHaving installed the FSX strips onto a non Gen-X system, they are unusable. The agn, because they are tied to Gen-X bgl files do not show. Instead I get the default autogen which sees trees and buildings in placesthey just ought not to be. As an experiment, I used ADE to create an autogen exclude polygon for Alcester along and just beyond the runway but without the visual references provided by the Gen-X scenery (eg. the A435, the town and the river) the field is impossible to find. My conclusion is that while the files could be made default FSX SP2 compatible, without using an unreasonably large exclude file to make the field more visible and with no supporting visual referencing to find the strips I'm not sure it's worth doing. I say this not because it's not feasible but because the whole point of using the farm strips is as an exercise in VFR. As the default SP2 FSX does not sufficiently support theother elements needed for reasonable quality VFR in the UK they justbecome landing strips with the actual navigation and visual referencingenroute missing. Paul----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Winskill" <gwinsk@xxxxxxx>To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: [jhb] Re: UK FarmstripsFrank, Branscome was in my list to do, for the batch I've just released. The problem is that the better visibillity in the Horizon scenery, and GoogleEarth, shows I'd need to re do the whole thing. The runway is longer thancould be seen in FS9. It also goes downhill and because of that, from theangle the shots are taken, appears to be curved. I'll put it in the next batch though. I've got several lists of the ones I've done; out of necessity. A number in excess of 100 is etched on my brain. Rather like the scars that I assume adorn the F1 chief! Less fun though. Gerry Winskill Frank Turley wrote:Hi Gerry, I've just done an inventory on my system, I have - Farms FS9 Plus - 14 fields Farms FSX - 21 fields UK Farmstrips - 48 fields Old ones from FS9 - 7 fields Total 90 fields The old ones are Alder Hall, Ashleys Field, Branscombe, Garston Farm, Manor Farm Collingbourne and another Manor Farm. I have a spreadsheet listing them in Excel 2007, if you'd like a copy or a csv version. Incidentally, I recall you asking for requests for the next ones, Ithink the place where we had the fly-in would be good - Gunton Park -but we may need to wait for FS11 before you are able to animate the deeroff the runway! Frank T.No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1592 - Release Date: 8/5/2008 6:03 AMNo virus found in this incoming message. 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