MessageM. Did a quick read yesterday of the 'Lean Tut.' and a quick try out -- managed to get to 12,300' -- climb rate finally dropped to 30fpm/1876rpm/73KIAS/10.1GPH -- on rerun LOWS to LOWG and the weather was kinder.Will be trying to improve on that to get the penny to drop.Got to get the relationship [ of how I read it ,how I understand it and how I do it ] right. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Brook To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Event for Wednesday 22 August 2007 1830UTC Rory wrote an excellent tutorial some years ago on the techniques of flying GA aircraft in the mountains. It is still valid today and I can highly recommend it (it enabled me to get my lowly PA28 up to 10,000 feet with no bother!). See: http://www.shetland.flyer.co.uk/multiplayer/mountain.html M. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Reynolds Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:07 AM To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Event for Wednesday 22 August 2007 1830UTC Using the Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) method, lean and watch EGT it should start to rise. Your ideal mix is where it peaks so when it starts to fall again increase the mix a tad and your there. Paul -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of FrankTurley@xxxxxxx Sent: 23 August 2007 08:51 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Event for Wednesday 22 August 2007 1830UTC In a message dated 23/08/2007 08:12:57 GMT Daylight Time, fredstopforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: FT,Aye it was to do with mixture.I'm not knowledgeable on the subject of how to lean correctly but I did have a fumble about it andcould only gain 2' extra hieght.Something to learn. Fred Fred, I'm sure I'm not the expert on this, but as I understand it, the higher you get, the thinner the air gets. The engine sucks in a mixture of air and fuel, so as you get higher it needs less fuel as there is less air about to keep the mix in the correct proportions. I have heard of 2 ways to do this, one is to monitor the exhaust temperature, and the other is to listen to the engine as you reduce the mix, and when it starts to cough then give it a touch more to keep it smooth. Of course, when you descend you have to reverse the process. Frank T. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date: 21/08/2007 16:02