[jhb] Re: UK Event for Wednesday 22 August 2007 1830UTC

  • From: "Fred Stopforth" <fredstopforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:17:19 +0100

MessageCan't say I remember properly but seem to think I noticed something like 
90+IAS.My climb rate was set initially at700' pm and reduced to 300'pm at 
9000'.Never used the TAS opt. Fred
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bones 
  To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:27 PM
  Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Event for Wednesday 22 August 2007 1830UTC


  Going back to basics can you say what speed you were climbing at and what the 
rate of climb had dropped to by FL100?

  Is your ASI set to IAS or TAS? This is in the settings somewhere and should 
be IAS. The TAS option is daft - they never should have included it.

  bones
    -----Original Message-----
    From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Fred Stopforth
    Sent: 23 August 2007 17:19
    To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Event for Wednesday 22 August 2007 1830UTC


    Bones,I eventually closed my cowls at about 7500' with my uneducated guess 
reasoning that it would be colder up there,possibly more damp and that I need 
warm engines:but then I had been on full throttle all thro the climb so presume 
that was something I didn't do right. Fred
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: bones 
      To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 4:17 PM
      Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Event for Wednesday 22 August 2007 1830UTC


      Or else you can cheat and turn AutoMixture on - but it's best to do it 
the proper way.

      I'm sure someone else was using the BE58 last night and got well above 
FL100. Did you have the cowls open or closed?

      bones
        -----Original Message-----
        From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Paul Reynolds
        Sent: 23 August 2007 09:07
        To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Event for Wednesday 22 August 2007 1830UTC


        Using the Exhaust Gas Temperature  (EGT) method, lean and watch EGT it 
should start to rise.  Your ideal mix is where it peaks so when it starts to 
fall again increase the mix a tad and your there.

        Paul
          -----Original Message-----
          From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of FrankTurley@xxxxxxx
          Sent: 23 August 2007 08:51
          To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [jhb] Re: UK Event for Wednesday 22 August 2007 1830UTC


          In a message dated 23/08/2007 08:12:57 GMT Daylight Time, 
fredstopforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
            FT,Aye it was to do with mixture.I'm not knowledgeable on the 
subject of how to lean correctly but I did have a fumble about it andcould only 
gain 2' extra hieght.Something to learn. Fred
          Fred,

          I'm sure I'm not the expert on this, but as I understand it, the 
higher you get, the thinner the air gets. The engine sucks in a mixture of air 
and fuel, so as you get higher it needs less fuel as there is less air about to 
keep the mix in the correct proportions. I have heard of 2 ways to do this, one 
is to monitor the exhaust temperature, and the other is to listen to the engine 
as you reduce the mix, and when it starts to cough then give it a touch more to 
keep it smooth.

          Of course, when you descend you have to reverse the process.

          Frank T.


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