[jhb] Re: Boeing C17

  • From: "Frank Fisher" <ffisher991@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:02:38 +0100

Boeing C17I think the pilot was demonstrating the slow speed capability, did 
not touch the ground thank goodness. He certainly knew exactly where his tail 
was in relation to the ground.
Frank
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Fossil 
  To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:56 PM
  Subject: [jhb] Re: Boeing C17


  Concorde needed a high AoA landing attitude because it didn't have any flaps.

   

  bones

  bones@xxxxxxx

   

  From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Frank Fisher
  Sent: 14 July 2010 19:39
  To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [jhb] Re: Boeing C17

   

  Great shot, much better when they are flying slow, I see that it has full 
flaps and gear down.

  I have a vague memory of seeing a Concorde 'walking' tail down along the 
runway at Duxford, could be wrong.

  BTW, at this current time, a thunderstorm is overhead (1835Z).

  Do not know how long I will be online, my BB speed has dropped from 1.9Mb to 
0.25Mb (upload still 0.38Mb). BT is going to get an earful shortly.

  Frank

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Fossil 

    To: JHB Private Email 

    Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:43 PM

    Subject: [jhb] Boeing C17

     

    I've seen a few of the RAF C17's floating around the UK on my SBS display 
but never expected to see one up close. That was my luck yesterday when ZZ175 
came over to Ronaldsway and then flew circuits for an hour!

    The weather was a bit dull so the pictures I took from my window were not 
of the best. Here's a typical one:

    http://www.homepages.mcb.net/bones/WebAircraft/ZZ175.jpg

    Note the huge fin and rudder area. You don't need that size of vertical 
area unless the aircraft has been designed to fly very slowly. Slow speed 
provides far less rudder effectiveness so the only way to control the aircraft 
at slow speed and with an engine out is to have a bigger rudder area. In fact 
one approach he made was at a very high nose up attitude and I would guess he 
was flying not much faster than a small twin. For such a large aircraft it 
looked incredibly slow.

    bones

    bones@xxxxxxx


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