RE: which kindle device you recommend

  • From: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:10:00 -0500

So, the problem is less the availability of the Kindle than your ability to
gain access to technical books. Having studied in three countries, I
understand the different limitations and the different allocation of
resources. In the US, the main source of technical books is Recordings for
the Blind and Dyslexic, known more commonly as RFB&D. The Web address is
<http://www.rfbd.org> www.rfbd.org However, I just checked their "frequently
asked questions" page, and it seems unlikely you'd be eligible to receive
the titles that interest you. Here's that link, FYI:
<http://www.rfbd.org/Training-and-Support/FAQs/Membership/52/>
http://www.rfbd.org/Training-and-Support/FAQs/Membership/52/  
 
 America  has an exceptional  supply of resources that are accessible to
blind and visually impaired  consumers. Nevertheless,  when abroad,  I was
always able to obtain the books I needed.  As a last resort, I could always
find volunteers at universities to record texts.
 
Instead of focusing on the Kindle, even though I agree Amazon has no excuses
for not making it fully accessible, I would research all the resources
available to you in your countries of residence. They are there.
 
 To correct the record, the copyright laws in the US are different from
those in the EU, and I assume they are also different in Canada.  The United
States  Congress updated the copyright laws  to our detriment in recent
years, and the changes did not accord with international standards.
Copyright in America used to  survive for the copyright holder's life plus
28 years, but now it's plus 95 years. I'm guessing this severe restriction
is behind Amazon's reluctance or inability to make the Kindle available in
certain foreign markets. The company has every financial incentive to sell
its products wherever it can. 
 
This  thread  has gone way off-topic, so I'll try not to pursue  it
further.
 
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Zdenek Vopat
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:33 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: which kindle device you recommend
 
yes I read the review not perfect but what can we do, definitely eorswe than
jaws haha. Problem with CNIB not too many scholarly books the ccopyright
laws as far as I know are the same in Canada and the Czech Republic like in
US, maybe the problem is if the book is crossing the boarder, but my guess
is simply that for american companies the foreign market is too small and
risk of potential law suites for copyright infrangement is too huge and
hiring lawyers to expllain the law too expensive that they don't want to
bother, my guess is that if one day china becomes a suuperpowwer their
companies are going to behave the same way as some american companies are
behaving now, they are ccontent with the US internal market why bothedr with
the foreign one? I hope that this is not interpreted as antiamerican
sentiment just stating the facts about restrictions.. Zdenek
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:15 PM
Subject: RE: which kindle device you recommend
 
Zdenek,
 
I don't know this for a fact, but I'm guessing that the reason Amazon isn't
shipping Kindle to all countries is due to inconsistent copyright
restrictions. Some years ago the disparity in these laws explained why so
many more books were accessible in the US than in the UK. You might want to
contact CNIB in Canada or the equivalent agency in the Czech Republic in
case they can shed more light on the question.
 
Did you read the review that Steve parker sent you a link to? After reading
it myself, I'm not sure how much you're missing.
 
As I mentioned earlier, I believe CNIB has a substantial library of
accessible books. Maybe Canadians subscribers to this list could give
specifics.
 
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Zdenek Vopat
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:37 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: which kindle device you recommend
 
well, I appologize for voicing my thrustration but while trying to purchase
the kindle I was not unable to do so. Therefore I contacted the Amazon just
to find out that it can not be shipped outside the USA, as many products
like complete bookshare or google books for americans only but they value
international custtomers as always. Here is the compy of the email from
amazon, seems like us living outside the US are out of luck once again.
Hello,
 
I'm sorry to inform, currently, Kindles and Kindle content are unavailable
in Czech Republic and Canada.
 
We value our international customers and hope to make Kindle and related
content available in more locations in the future.
 
Kindle and Kindle DX (Latest Generation) models can only be purchased from
Amazon.com and shipped to eligible countries.
 
Visit the Kindle (Latest Generation) detail pages and find the "Live Outside
the U.S" box where you can select your country to see if Kindle and
Whispernet wireless service are available:
 
Thanks for your interest in Kindle. Zdenek
 
----- Original Message -----
From: shparker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: which kindle device you recommend
 
Zdenek,
 
Check out the November edition of Access World. The link is below:
 
http://www.afb.org/accessworld
 
Steve Parker
----- Original Message -----
From: Zdenek Vopat
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 3:39 PM
Subject: which kindle device you recommend
 
Hello listers: a bit jaws unrelated question I admit, but which kindle
device would you recommend I looked at their search page and found one for
$379 and others ranging from $189 but I don`t understand the difference. I
need a device which would read me the books because I am yes you guest right
blind, and which could be used anywhere in the world. Here is the list of
someof them which I found but perhaps there are more of thtem. many thanks
for your help. The list of some ofthem follows but pplease advice if any
other not on the list is better.
1. Kindle 3G Wireless Reading Device, Free 3G + Wi-Fi, 3G Works Globally, 6"
Display - with New E Ink (Pearl) Technology
$189.00
Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping 2 New & Used from $189.00
(6646)
 
2. Kindle Wireless Reading Device, Wi-Fi, 6" Display - with New E Ink
(Pearl) Technology
$139.00
Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping
(6646)
 
3. Kindle Wireless Reading Device, Free 3G, 6" Display, White - 2nd
Generation
33 New & Used from $139.99
(17510)
 
4. Kindle 3G Wireless Reading Device, Free 3G + Wi-Fi, 3G Works Globally, 6"
Display - with New E Ink (Pearl) Technology
$189.00
Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping
(6646)
 
5. Kindle: Amazon's Original Wireless Reading Device (1st generation)
56 New & Used from $110.00
(7842)
 
6. Kindle DX Wireless Reading Device, Free 3G, 9.7" Display, Graphite, 3G
Works Globally - Latest Generation
$379.00
Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping 4 New & Used from $319.99
(2479)
 
7. Kindle Leather Cover, Black (Fits 6" Display, Latest Generation Kindle)
$34.99
Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping 852 New & Used from $29.99
(1210)
 
8. Kindle Lighted Leather Cover, Black (Fits 6" Display, Latest Generation
Kindle)
$59.99
Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping 240 New & Used from $51.99
(1732)
 
9. Kindle Lighted Leather Cover, Burgundy Red (Fits 6" Display, Latest
Generation Kindle)
$59.99
Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping 6 New & Used from $45.99
(1732)
zdenek vopat

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