Re: understanding tables with Jaws
- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:22:46 -0400
Thanks Chris. Where do you find jaws help? Is it on line or in a disc that
I never got? Judith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Jenkins" <saveup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: understanding tables with Jaws
> Hello Daniel.
>
> You have the table visualized correctly. Jaws for Windows has table
> navigation keys and if you use the table navigation keys. You could move
> from sell to sell and Jaws should report Monday 70 degrees. Assuming
Monday
> was in the first row and 70 degrees is in the row that you are moving
> across. The table navigation keys are listed below.
> Keystrokes for Working in Tables
>
> Keystrokes for Working in Tables
>
> JAWS now supports standard commands for working in tables. These commands
> work in most popular applications, allowing you access right away -
without
> having
> to learn the application specific commands. As you become more familiar
with
> new applications, you may find it easier to use the commands specific to
> that
> program, or it might be easier for you to continue using these commands.
>
> Commands for Moving within Tables
>
> These commands move focus to the indicated cell and speak the contents.
Cell
> and row coordinates as well as column and/or row heading information may
> also
> be provided.
>
> Summary: Commands for moving within tables.
> Table with 2 columns and 12 rows
>
> Description
>
> Command
>
> Say Current Cell
>
> ALT+CTRL+NUM PAD 5
>
> Cell to Right
>
> ALT+CTRL+RIGHT ARROW
>
> Cell to Left
>
> ALT+CTRL+LEFT ARROW
>
> Cell Below
>
> ALT+CTRL+DOWN ARROW
>
> Cell Above
>
> ALT+CTRL+UP ARROW
>
> First Cell
>
> ALT+CTRL+HOME
>
> Last Cell
>
> ALT+CTRL+END
>
> First Cell in Column
>
> ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+UP ARROW
>
> Last Cell in Column
>
> ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW
>
> First Cell in Row
>
> ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW
>
> Last Cell in Row
>
> ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW
> table end
>
> Table Reading Commands
>
> Summary: Table Reading Commands
> Table with 2 columns and 8 rows
>
> Description
>
> Command
>
> Say Current Cell
>
> ALT+CTRL+NUM PAD 5
>
> Read Current Row
>
> INSERT+SHIFT+UP ARROW
>
> Read from Start of Row
>
> INSERT+SHIFT+HOME
>
> Read to End of Row
>
> INSERT+SHIFT+PAGE UP
>
> Read Current Column
>
> INSERT+SHIFT+NUM PAD 5
>
> Read from Top of Column
>
> INSERT+SHIFT+END
>
> Read to Bottom of Column
>
> INSERT+SHIFT+PAGE DOWN
> table end
>
>
> You can find all of this and more in the Jaws helped.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Chris.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Yardbird
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:03 PM
> To: JFW List
> Subject: understanding tables with Jaws
>
> I think this is a basic issue that I've just never understood. when I'm
on
> a Web page, let's take a weather page of an online newspaper for example,
> take the 5-day forecast feature of the Los Angeles times weather page.
For
> anyone interested, the home page is
> www.latimes.com,
> and then from that page
> click on either Forecast or Weather, which both lead to the weather page.
>
> Okay. So I click on a this page link for the 5-day forecast. I'm taken
> down the page to the title 5-day forecast, and when I arrow down, Jaws
> announces that I'm entering a table.
>
> Now, this is a fairly simple table, which is why I can handle it in my
> simple way, though I'd like to know if there's a better approach. First,
> Jaws presents a list of the names of the days. I suppose they're what I'd
> see across the top of the table, if I could see this and Jaws hadn't
> rearranged it.
>
> Then, and I assume these cells are presented from left to right across the
> "real" web page so that they line up under the days they pertain to,
comes
> a list of the expected sky conditions: Partly cloudy, sunny, etc.
>
> Finally, I assume also in a line from left to right beneath this, comes a
> sequence of expected high and low temperatures for each day. 72/54,
69/53,
> and so forth.
>
> Well, with this table, as with any I encounter on a Web page with Jaws (I
> just don't happen to have encountered tables or created any in Word), my
> method of gleaning information from them is to visualize the table as it
> must look in actuality, and memorize which things on the X axis must
> correspond with which things on the Y axis, or however I imagine the table
> is laid out. Unconsciously, I'm counting, in the sense that if Friday is
> the third day in the list of days, then the third sky condition descriptor
> or
> set of high and low temperatures must belong to Frieday.
>
> Sometimes, as with this weather forecast feature, it's not too difficult
to
> do. But in tables that are any more complex than this, it's sometimes
> mind-boggling difficult for me. Am I doing the only thing a Jaws user can
> do (minus the visualization for those who don't have a graphical image to
> refer to) but always with the memorization and painstaking correlation?
Or
> am I misunderstanding how you're supposed to "view" a table under Jaws?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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