That's interesting Dave. I'll pass along that information to FS and Conversys. Everet. I think this flyer wasn't just a scanned image because the Jaws cursor did see text. It just was not visible with the virtual pc cursor. I think this involves FS because of the strange behaviour when using the Jaws cursor to read the screen text. I see the text moving up line by line from the bottom but not while going down line by line from the top of the window. I'll take your advice and ask for accessible versions. Just hope I don't have to do that every time a new one comes out. Bob . ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:50 PM Subject: Re: reading Conversys flyers with IE7 and Jaws Robert, Wow. After I sent you the last message I realized that after visiting that web site my JAWS no longer could read a list, like the list of messages. I had to unload and reload JAWS to put things right. I wonder if this web site (or the advertising site that pops up) changes some screen attributes? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Logue To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 12:47 Subject: reading Conversys flyers with IE7 and Jaws I am having trouble reading on line flyers produced by Conversys. I am using Jaws 10 and IE7. I can see all kinds of links and image maps on the pages but the Virtual PC mode does not see any product details. I can see some product text if I use the Jaws cursor but only if I start from the bottom of the IE window and use the up arrow. If I start from the top, the page looks almost empty. There are also controls that don't show as actual controls to Jaws. It is really hard to get to them with the Jaws cursor and click them. If I select and copy using virtual cursor, I get all the links and such but no product text. If I use on screen highlight, I get even less info copied. I've use both types of document layouts and both types of selecting text. I've tried several html settings but don't get anything better. I hope a few of you will try this out and see if they can get better results. This company now produces most of the online flyers for many large Canadian retailers. I want to help make their flyer more accessible but I need more information. The link I'll give takes you to a page that asks for a Canadian postal code. You can use mine if you don't know one. T6E 4G7 http://director.flyerservices.com/HBC/PostalCodeEntry.aspx?SessionId=k24j0n4525gpenncw0iqdp55&OrganizationId=b4a9aa67-c517-485f-a7bf-0429bda25779&BannerId=3168190d-d126-41c3-b3ef-8c3969f04ce2&BannerName=HOUT&banner=HOUT&language=EN I hope the link works as it was to long for one line. Thanks in advance. Bob