yes, that is more clear, and I really couldn't understand what I was seeing with Jaws in that Windows, why it said Documents and Settings (you may know better than I, but I don't think of that as some sort of home base for me. I've never really understood the XP folder structure, actually. I mean, I know how to find things and navigate among the folders but I don't udnerstand much about how all that is set up or why, above my C prompt and the floppy drive, there's a whole other set of folders bearing names that are duplicated under my local drive. So I never use them for anything. Anyway, so if I'd have typed cls it would have cleaned up the screen a little and I'd have found it simplified? Okay. But I really hope it doesn't require that I trouble shoot one or gboth of these batch files provided by others. I won't know what I'm discovering in the way of meaningful errors. Sorry. This has just become one of those huge wastes of time trying to learn something I don't need very often, and don't feel I've suffered for the lack of. I hit myself on the head wondering why I get so curious once something like that strikes my fancy instead of just giving up when the tweak doesn't work for me. Oh, well. Maybe someone else will look through this thread and say "Oh, here's the problem. Just use this file to run from the batch file, and that'll do it." there was a mistake or two in the files you were trying to use. Maybe somebody mistyped them or something. But this one is the right one, with the path as part of the filename and there you go." Wishful thinking, I know. Just burned out on this one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.bissett@xxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:59 PM Subject: RE: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right That window now I remember we used to call the dos prompt and that's how we work in it. The stuff you were seeing can be cleared by typing "cls" I am sure you remember that command. Then the only thing you have below the windows bar at the top is the dos prompt but it picks up the path from your home folder "c:\documents and settings\yardbird". The reason I suggested this approach was that when you execute your batch file any errors will remain in the window rather than just opening executing closing as when you run your batch from the short cut because when the window closes you have know idea what happened. I hope this clears it up a bit. Tom Bissett BMO Financial Group Technology and Operations Integrated Client Solutions Tel: (416) 549-6514 E-Mail tom.bissett@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:01 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right You're right. Exit worked. It just sounds, using jaws, as if what's in that box is part of a folder tree view, and it was hard to imagine that I could just type something, any more than I'd type something directly onto the screen when I'm in Windows Explorer. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.bissett@xxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: RE: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right Type "exit" and the command prompt will close propperly Tom Bissett BMO Financial Group Technology and Operations Integrated Client Solutions Tel: (416) 549-6514 E-Mail tom.bissett@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:59 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right And how do you get out of that command box or whatever it is? It's not as if I can't alt f 4 out of it to do other things, but I'd like to just exit it properly. Do I have to be careful not to type or delete anything in it? What's its purpose? Why was I recommended to launch it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "RAWest" <rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: RE: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right To open the command prompt in the run dialog type cmd and press enter. I believe it is also in all programs, accessories Robert To find me you can do the following. Skype id: rawest24 Aim id: rawest24 EMail: rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:55 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right Roger, By "replace" you mean correct the spelling? Thanks, but I just did and that didn't help, either. In fact, that window no longer flashes when I click on the icon. Here is the corrected line from the batch file, which as I said, I copied directly from what was provided early in the thread by someone. I deleted the "a" from the filename: : tskkill /F /IM jfw.exe Maybe one of the other suggestions that were provided in this thread uses a path to the file? Because I believe one version of this that I saw earlier includes a path under c:\ involving a few numeraals. So please look again at the above line and consider that it might give the batch file incorrect directions? Thanks. I wish I could remember the more complex filename I saw for this file earlier, but I can't. long a different path ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Levine" <rlstation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: Re: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right Hi, If you are using XP home, then replace "taskkill" with "tskill". After you have tryed this, let us know. Good Luck, Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:30 AM Subject: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right > Following directions that were provided here, I created a file named > killjaws.bat in a > chosen folder using these lines: > > echo off > taskkill /F /IM jfw.exe > > I went to the file and created a Desktop shortcut icon for it, using > the Send To function. > > Then I went to the new icon, went into its properties, and created a > hotkey > for it so I could invoke the batch file next time Jaws lost speech. So > far, > so good. > > But when I pressed my hotkey combo, nothing happened. I checked to see if > my > hotkey had held, and it had. I went to the desktop, focused on the icon, > and > pressed Enter to activate it. Again, nothing happened. > > I did a restart in order to see if that might have been needed. It made no > difference. The only thing I can report helpfully is visual evidence I'm > unable to make sense of. And that is, when I activate this shortcut, a > small > dark rectangle I assume to be some sort of notification flashes onto the > screen and disappears, all within a fraction of a second. Even if I could > read, and therefore wouldn't need Jaws in the first place, I probably > couldn't see what this thing says because it flashes by so fast. So that > doesn't help me describe what's going on. > > Does anyone have an idea what it is that's not working right? Could it be > that you can't just exit Jaws this way in a normal situation, instead of > unloading it with Insert F4? You have to be in a situation where Jaws > loses > speech? > > Thanks. > > -- > JFW related links: > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ > Scripting mailing list: > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com > JFW List instructions: > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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