try Jawskey plus escape to refresh your screen. I often have to do this with BARD. ----- Original Message ----- From: andy To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:54 AM Subject: jaws 12 and bared log in. hello listers i am wondering if any one else is having trouble loging in to the NLS bard web sight. when i go to the bard web sight put in my user name and pass word and press inter it still tells me to log in the only way to get past this is to press the jaws key plus delete to refresh the page this has been going on since jaws 11. i am using two different computers and it happons on both of them. 1 is windows XP home with SP 3 jaws 12.512 and the other is windows vista SP 2 with jaws 12.512 any ideas are welcom.