Bonnie, Mea culpa -- I thought I gave you information on the Talks user group, who would have a lot more information on phones and Talks. Here's how to join: Talks mailing list Talks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bonnie Vegiard To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 19:35 Subject: iphone and iphone list Sorry for the off topic, please respond off list. I've been trying to join lists about this topic for some time-a yahoo list I found has never had any traffic, and a google group I've tried I cannot join, my e-mails are rejected. Now my family wants to decide on going to a new plan in the next day or two, and I need to know if the iphone is nicely accessible, or if I should stay with the phone I have-Nokia N-82 with Talks- and pay the extra to have a separate plan. Any recommendations about the phone or a phone list would really help. I have played with Voiceover, and it seems pretty good, but can I text from a phone with no num pad, and I'd love to know if the GPS and google maps works with voiceover. Thanks! Bonnie bvegiard@xxxxxxxxx