description of the difference between the Jaws window interface and the Jaws context menu interface for Jaws for Windows.
- From: "Chris Jenkins" <saveup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:02:41 -0500
Hello Daniel.
First of all let me say I'm not totally blind. But I still depend on Jaws
for Windows to be able to use the computer.
I'm going to describe the Jaws window interface of Jaws for Windows first
and then I will describe the Jaws context menu interface. The Jaws window
has a title bar, a menu bar and a status line. All of this is contained in
a rectangular window with a picture of a shark in the center of the window.
On the other hand when Jaws is ran from the system tray I have a picture of
a shark in the system tray. You can verify this by bringing up the list of
items in the system tray by pressing "insert + F11" and you should see Jaws
for Windows in the list of items. If you press enter on this item you will
get the same context menu as you would get by pressing "insert + J". You
are correct this context menu has the same menu choices as you will find in
the Jaws window interface. Your choices are in a vertical list with
submenus for a lot of the choices. If you press escape out of the context
menu you will no longer be in the Jaws interface. On the other hand if you
escape out of the menus while using the Jaws window interface you will still
be in the Jaws window. If you are using the Jaws window interface and you
press "insert + page down" the status line will be spoken. I think you will
hear your version number and your serial number in the status line of the
Jaws window.
Don't forget a context menu will have different choices depending on what
you're doing. For example if you press your applications key while in this
message. It will bring up a different context menu than if you press your
application key while focused on a list of messages in your inbox.
I hope this helps.
Chris.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:18 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: changing language situation
hello Chris,
I do in fact have Jaws running from my system tray, launching at startup.
And I use this insert J command regularly. However, even though Jaws
clearly announces "context menu" when I invoke it, for some reason I've
tended to ignore this announcement because what that brings up appears to be
very much like a replica of the Jaws interface I'm familiar with if I happen
not to be running Jaws in the system tray, which I think of as the Jaws
interface, just as if it were the interface of some other program. This
"context menu" appears to have main entries that are, in fact, nothing but
the same menu headings which appear along the menu line of the Jaws
interface. Except that you don't have to bother pressing the alt key to go
to the menu line. You see what I' mean? So I've always imagined it was just
a way to bring up the Jaws main screen (that's what I mean by "interface")
when it wasn't always there to cycle to in the task bar. That's all I
thought was invoked by Insert J.
And you know, I'm not sure I'm wrong, even now. All that would convince me
would be if I had someone with normal vision look at what's onscreen when I
have jaws in the Task Bar, then reset Jaws to run in the system tray,
reboot, and see if the display in fact just looks as if you've brought up
the main Jaws screen with a hotkey.
anyway, had I ever allowed myself to register hearing "context menu" as I
pressed Insert J, I'd have known that's what it's called by FS, whether
frivolously or more seriously.
Thanks for explaining,
Daniel
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Jenkins <mailto:saveup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: changing language situation
Hello Daniel.
She forgot that not everyone has Jaws to start in the system tray. When you
have Jaws starting from the system tray with insert + J a context menu
appears which contains all of the options in this context menu. If you are
using the Jaws window interface go to the menu bar, press right arrow until
you hear language, open the language menu, press down arrow until you hear
synthesizer language submenu and open the submenu where you should see the
list of speech synthesizer languages. Make sure and be using eloquence as
your speech synthesizer while doing this.
I hope this helps.
Chris.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 7:41 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: Re: changing language situation
Hi,
What menu is it that you're referring to as the Jaws context menu? One of
the menus in the Jaws interface (not meaning Configuration manager, but the
basic Jaws screen)? Or do you mean something to do with the Windows Context
key? Or...?
If you would name the stops along the way that you mean by your directions
to go left and right and up and down, I might know what you're referring to.
But with those purely directional directions, I can't figure out which menu
line and menus you may be describing.
Thank you very much.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch <mailto:florlync@xxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: changing language situation
1. Bring up the JAWS context menu.
2. Down-arrow twice, and right-arrow once.
3. Down-arrow once, and right-arrow once.
You are now in the Synthesizer Language Submenu, from where you choose your
language.
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Smith <mailto:rrrsmith@xxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: changing language situation
Dear list,
Sorry the following turned out so long, but do need help!
Being interested in learning German, I found a couple of web sites that look
promising. I thought, though, that before down loading anything I should
check to see if Jaws would be able to read that language properly when it
appears on the screen. I went to Jaws 6 which is on my desktop, entered,
which brought up the context menu. I entered on open; found language, and
entered, found two items: Jaws language, which as I remember
contained American English, English, and Spanish. (sorry this is getting
so long)! closed that, and on the previous list found, language
synthesizer. Entered on that, and lo and behold found a long list of
foreign languages including German. Entered on that dis covered it did a
really good job of reading everything in my computer with a almost
un-understandable German accent; but did a beautiful job with some real
German I typed in.
Now the problem. I couldn't turn off the German talk!!! I tried everything
I know-which isn't very much; including reboot, complete turn off. German
was still there when computer turned back on. Finally after a couple of
hours, and an over-night rest and turning on computer again, and
some more piking around, German disappeared and English Jaws returned. My
question finally is, what should I do to close down the use of German and
returning to English?
Bob Smith
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