I am so sorry for messing up last post, must be tired sarah morley's book is on both windows 7 and vista, it is sold by rnib in England, You can get in various formats, I got in cd,so I can listen away from computer or on,it was late being published but has been out a couple of months or more It covers vista as well, I have it and will listen soon,steve griffiths of rnib a very clever vip jaws user worked on it I hope he gets credit for it thanks dorothy