Heather, Several download links have been given, and I don't know which one you're using. The one that always works for me is http://updateflash.org It will first detect if your AFP is current. If not, it will install it for you. There's no searching through webpages for the download link, etc. I'd had all kinds of problems with AFP before learning of this website. Now I get it installed and working in both IE8 and Firefox without a hitch. _____ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of heather kd5cbl Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:13 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: adobe and it's flash really ticking me off Okay, I have downloaded adobe active x 10 thousand times I think and it won't install. I uninstalled all adobe flash player and now I cant find it but was told there was an accessable adobe flash site. Is this true or is this faulse! exasperated Heather