Re: a question about displaying font information with jaws version 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 13:10:14 -0700
Evangeline,
Change a skin? You mean like the appearance of an audio program? I didn't
ask anything like that. Anyway, don't worry. I have solved the problem I
needed to solve.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Evangeline Dionisio" <evangeline.dionisio@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: a question about displaying font information with jaws version
8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
Hi!
I am sorry if I only answer your question this time. Well, to change
the keystroke of select a skim, go to the keyboard manager. After
that, find the default, then look for select a skim. After you find
it, press controll h to change the keystroke. I hope this helps you.
On 4/3/07, Yardbird <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> No sooner had I sent off the reply with that question than all the names
> of
> prophets, kings and everyone occurred to me and I heard Eloquence garbling
> them. Did I mention I was feeling learning-impaired this morning? Lord,
> what
> an unappealing politically-correct euphemism that is. Oh, well.
> uphemsm.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:02 AM
> Subject: RE: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version
> 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
>
> Proper names mostly, along with a few phrases one does not use in
> every-day conversation. We don't meet many hananiah's these days; in
> fact, I'm willing to bet your copy just mispronounced that. In fact,
> there was a time when Eloquence couldn't even pronounce Jeremiah, and
> I've known a few of those in my time. Caleb comes out with a short A,
> instead of a long one. So you can either put up with these, or fix
> them.
>
> Ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Yardbird
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:57 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
>
> Ted,
>
> Please explain a little more about the challenges of using the Jaws
> dictionary in the service of a Bible. I'm familiar with both the King
> James
> in English and the Five Books of Moses in Hebrew, and unless you're
> talking
> about the Old Testament in Hebrew, I can't immediately understand what
> it is
> you need to do with the Jaws dictionary.
> Thanks.servcie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:21 AM
> Subject: RE: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version
> 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
>
> Hey, creating a good Bible dictionary is bad enough. I have one I'm
> rather proud of. In fact, it's better than the one that came packaged
> with JAWS, but it certainly took time to put together.
>
> Ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Yardbird
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:02 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
>
> Ted,
>
> Exactly. So I give up on that cute idea. Oh, well.
> .
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 5:42 AM
> Subject: RE: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version
> 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
>
> It can be done in Eloquence, but could be awkward, if you have a large
> Spanish vocabulary with which to work. You can use Dictionary Manager
> to define the words you want spoken in either Castilian or Latin
> American Spanish. Only trouble is you could wind up with a dictionary
> file the size of New Jersey.
>
> Ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ryan MacIsaac
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 12:22 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
>
> Hi Yardbird,
>
> Glad I was able to help and you got things working the way you want.
>
> As fir your question about getting the Spanish voice to read Spanish
> words,
> I don't really know of a way to do this. About the only thing I can
> think of
> is to use the alternate say all command (alt insert down arrow). This
> won't
> just read the one word you want, but will start a say all command using
> whatever voice you have defined to do an alternate say all. Other than
> that,
> I really can't figure out a way to do what you want.
>
> Regards,
> Ryan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Yardbird
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 8:06 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version
> 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
> Ryan,
>
> Thanks for telling me. I wouldn't have guessed, because there isn't any
> other application in which I was interested for this purpose. But no
> hassle.
>
> I don't mind doing it in the default file. That's fine. Thanks for your
> patience and effort. Let me go try it...
>
> Success. In order to get the key combo I really wanted for finger
> convenience (Insert control S), I had to delete that keystroke from Set
> Synthesizer, but as I've used only Eloquence for years, I don't expect
> to
> need to change my synth on the fly. And I tested it to see if it took,
> and
> it did. Whew. That was not something I could have figured out on my own,
>
> I'll tell ya! Sure, I understood all along that I'd have to go into
> Keyboard
>
> Manager, didn't need to be told that. But only you figured out that it
> wasn't true that I could restrict the change only to the word.jkm file,
> or
> that I'd not even find the function listed there.
>
> Well, this is going to be handy for proofreading things I write with a
> lot
> of foreign language words and phrases set off in italics,another method
> besides just poking through everything just stopping all the time and
> using
> Insert F, character by character. Which still will have its uses, of
> course.
>
> But this is really cool. Now if only I could figure out how to invoke my
>
> Spanish voice to read the Spanish words, which I type using proper
> symbols
> and all that. You happen to know? Or, as I surmise from something I read
> in
> the course of all this, you can only set these scheme voices to high or
> low
> or something like that? Sorry for going stupid. I was working all day
> before
>
> I got into this inspired by your advice, and now my brain is totally
> burned
> out, at least for Jaws.
> your inspiration y rfrom
> poi
> Thanks again, Ryan.
> xcept
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan MacIsaac" <jrmacisaac@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:52 PM
> Subject: RE: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version
> 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
>
> Hi Yardbird,
>
> It appears that, in Jaws 8, the "select a scheme" script is only
> available
> in the default keyboard file. It is not in the Microsoft Word keyboard
> file.
> If you want to change that Alt insert S keystroke, you are going to have
> to
> do it in the default keyboard file. Unfortunately, there is no other way
> around this unless you want to copy the "select a scheme" script from
> the
> default file to the Word keyboard script file. If you are not familiar
> with
> modifying script files, I would simply make the change in the default
> file.
> That way, if you are running another program and decide to want to
> change a
> scheme, the new keystroke you define will be available to you.
>
> I know you wanted this change only to take effect for Word, but there is
> no
> easy way to do that short of modifying script files.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Yardbird
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:59 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version
> 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
> Ryan,
>
> Well, I returned to the list in keyboard manager for Word (not Word
> 2007,
> which is one of two alternatives to the default Word selection) and
> looked
> up and down it, both by pressing the letter s and just by arrowing. No
> luck.
>
> There are plenty of set this, set that lines, but not this one.
>
> If it helps for me to say this, I'm using Word 2000 with the latest, or
> second latest Jaws 8 . By second latest, I mean 8.0.1163 Unicode. I
> don't
> know why it just said "unicode." But that's what it said, and I'm
> reporting
> faithfully.
>
> any idea why I can't find this option in my keyboard manager list for
> Word?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan MacIsaac" <jrmacisaac@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:20 PM
> Subject: RE: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version
> 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
>
> Hi,
>
> If you look at my message again, you need to find a script in the
> keyboard
> manager called "select a scheme". That is the script that is assigned to
> the
> key combination Alt insert S. From your message, it appeared that this
> was
> the keystroke you wanted to change.
>
> If you only want to change this keystroke from one particular program
> like
> Microsoft Word, open Word and then invoke the keyboard manager and look
> for
> the script "select a scheme". You can then change the Alt control S
> keystroke to something easier for you to use. If you want this keystroke
> to
> be applied in all programs, you have to load the default file by
> pressing
> control shift D when you open the keyboard manager.
>
> Once you do this, you can invoke the change schemes list box by using
> the
> keystroke you entered in the keyboard manager.
>
> I hope this is clear and it will do what you want to do.
>
> Ryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Yardbird
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:28 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version
> 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
> Hi Ryan,
> I do not want to change the key command for the Say Font script, nor
> would I
>
> apply the change I am looking for globally to all applications. This
> thread
> began with a discussion of how to invoke the speech and sounds menu with
> a
> hotkey in order to make Jaws speak various attributes in different
> voices.
>
> Let me be clear once more. I do know that This function can be either
> invoked by this particularly inconvenient hotkey key combination (insert
> alt
>
> s) or, as if often the case with Jaws, by going into configuration
> manager,
> settings, speech and sounds, and setting it there. But that's not much
> fun
> if you just want to activate this function temporarily and then turn it
> off.
>
> Now, I hope that clarified what the original topic was. It wasn't about
> Insert F. There is nothing inconvenient about Insert F. I was not trying
> to
> learn how to change that. And, if I go to the keyboard manager looking
> in
> the Word area for a keystroke for this purpose, either it's not in the
> list,
>
> or I need to know the name it's been given for that list, which must be
> pretty counter-intuitive, I'd say. That is what I'm looking for, a way
> to
> change Insert Alt S to something else.
>
> Thanks very much for responding.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan MacIsaac" <jrmacisaac@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:56 AM
> Subject: RE: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version
> 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
>
> Hi,
>
> To do what you want to do, open the keyboard manager and then load the
> default keyboard file by pressing control shift D.
>
> Next, find the script "select a scheme" and change the key to whatever
> you
> want as outlined in the previous message about the say font script.
>
> I hope this helps,
> Ryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Yardbird
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:14 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version
> 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
> Dear Evangeline,
> I'm sorry, but it seems I may not have expressed myself clearly enough.
> I do
>
> not wish for another way to invoke the Say Font command. Insert F is
> perfectly convenient and I use it frequently. The keystroke I wished to
> change is the one that invokes the sounds and schemes dialogue from
> which
> you can choose one of many ways to make Jaws automatically speak font
> changes as it reads, or speak the text in different voices for different
> character formatting, such as bold or italic. That keystroke is Insert
> alt
> S, and without instruction from a Yoga master, I can't see how I can
> learn
> to stretch my right hand that far without using my other hand to place
> my
> little finger on Insert and my thumb on the alt key, and then use my
> left
> hand finger to press the S key. This is quite a trick of contortion. so
> I
> wish I could change this to something easier. But if it is also in the
> keyboard manager list, I can't figure out how to find it, or what it's
> called.
>
> I hope this is more clear.
>
> Thanks very much.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Evangeline Dionisio" <evangeline.dionisio@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version
> 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
>
>
> The first thing to do is you go to the keyboard manager. Then locate
> the dessired application that you want to change. So for example
> microsoft word. Then go to the next pane by pressing tab. Then locate
> the dessired keystroke you want to change, as you mentioned say font.
> After that, as you are locating the dessired keystroke you heard the
> asigned key right! After you hear the asign key for say font, press
> tab for you to go to the asign hotkey. That's now the time you can
> change the hotkey asign to it. After you change the default hotkey,
> press tab to go to the ok button. That's also the time the JAWS
> setting will now accept the new hotkey. I hope this will help you.
> I'm very sorry for the confusing words. If you still have questions,
> just ask me and I will answer you as soon as I can.
>
> On 3/31/07, Yardbird <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Evangeline,
> >
> > could you explain this again? I would like to be able to use this
> command
> > to
> > make certain character formatting speak different. With considerable
> > effort
> > and stretching, I managed to open the list of schemes, and was able to
> > turn
> > on the proofreading scheme for what I would like to hear spoken in a
> > different voice. But this is one crazy stretch of the hand and
> fingers,
> > for
> > me anyway.
> >
> > So I saw your advice to change the hotkey, but I guess I didn't
> understand
> > your instructions. I opened the keyboard manager and left it in the
> file
> > for
> > Word, and arrowed through the list looking for something with Insert
> alt s
> > so I could change it, but I couldn't find anything like that. Was I
> > looking
> > in the wrong place? Please give specific directions.
> >
> > Thanks very much.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Evangeline Dionisio" <evangeline.dionisio@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> > version
> > 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
> >
> >
> > One thing that you can do is to change the keyboard shortcut. You can
> > go to the list of the script for Ms word and change the keyboard
> > shortcut for saying font as well as its style. I hope it will help
> > you.
> > Good luck!
> >
> > On 3/30/07, Chris Jenkins <saveup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > You can bring up your list of schemes by pressing "ALT + insert +
> S".
> > > Once
> > > you bring up the list of schemes there should be a scheme for what
> you
> > > want
> > > to do. If you do not find a scheme for what you want to do you can
> > > create
> > > a
> > > custom scheme by going to the speech and sound manager.
> > >
> > > I hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Chris.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf
> > > Of Shai Wolman
> > > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:01 AM
> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: a question about displaying font information with jaws
> version
> > > 8.0.423 and microsoft word 2003
> > >
> > > Hi, other than pressing insert f to tell me whether text in word2003
> is
> > > in
> > > bold, underline or italics, is there a way that I can set jaws to do
> > > this
> > > by
> > > default, or while I'm in a word session?
> > > Any help with this would be appreciated.
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Shai Wolman
> > >
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