Hi, first thing get start up maniger from the jfw lite site. It still works grate in vista. No mucking about in folders etc. but if you really want to muck about in them do it the same way you would in xp. 1. For the user start up folder. 1. tab to the start button. 2. press the context key. 3. select open. 4. open programs five open start up there you go. For all user change step 3 from open to open all users. Now for the window list my guess would be that you got the side bar running and yes each gagit shows up as a window. Turn off the side bar only run it when you are using it for some thing. It is a real nice thing to have but only use it when you need it like I say. Hth Jim Grimsby Jr. skype: Jim.grimsby teamSpeak server jimgrimsby.no-ip.info passport jim.grimsby@xxxxxxx I say what I mean! I mean what I say! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cher Bosch Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:36 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Vista Jim and list- Where is the real start-up folder in VISTA, or are there several you need to delete stuff from? And, Insert-F10 shows about 10 things running while JAWS is the only thing on the taskbar. Any idea what that is all about? AOL shows up in the system tray, but was never even installed on the laptop. I've deleted everything that said 'AOL' and it is still in the system tray. Any ideas on how to kill this thing? Cher >>> "Jim Grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx> 10/24/2007 12:47 AM >>> And the rule of thumb is this adjust visual settings for best performance. Don’t load anything at start up you don’t need. Get a copy of dectalk access 32 it will use less system resources and ram. Hth Jim Grimsby Jr. skype: Jim.grimsby I say what I mean! I mean what I say! From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kuvvosh Suggs Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:59 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Vista Let me correct something, You can get a rating of 3.0 and still have good performance on a laptop. The Laptop I have is aAcer 9400 series Full size laptop. The scores is as follow. Processor: 4.7 Memory: 4.6 arrow desktop 3.9 Gameing Graphics 3.7 Hard drive 5.0. Note: This is the score I have, after upgrading the Hard Disk to a Hybrid drive, and also using Modded INF Drivers for the video and other tweaks. I could make the score be higher if I wanted to push the laptop in overclocking mode, but, that would be stupid as then you would not have long battery life, and chance on hardware and software failure. I build computers, and do networking and so forth. I find that Vista runs better with a good video card, even if you don’t need it, it helps. Also if you were building a desktop computer, don’t skimp on the sound card, as Vista has a whole new sound engine as far as being able to control each application sound levels and other things. I have installed Vista, on a laptop that is 3 years old, it only had 512 meg of ram, and ran vista fine. Just that it was slow to boot, and took time to load anything up. Which could be fixed with more ram. Just a rule of thumb with Vista, If you go cheap it will be slow, if you invest a little extra and get better hardware, it will run better. Anyway. Hope this helps. Kuvvosh From: Kuvvosh Suggs [mailto:sirruthan@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:33 PM To: 'jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: Vista Because Vista rely very heavily with the video, even with jaws disabling the arrow features and such, if you got a cheap low score rating on the video, your system will spend more time thinking on graphics then any other task hence lag. Trust me, I built a new rig just last week, and used it’s onboard S3 Basic Video, while installing Vista. After installing it had a score rating of 1.0 on graphics for gaming and arrow feature. Yet, when I installed the new Video card that I purchased. It went up to 5.6 rating. Keep in mind, when it was a rating of 1.0, it took 6 minutes for Vista to load up to the log in, once I installed the Video card, which was a geforce 8600 with 512 it didn’t take but 10 seconds to load to log in screen. That’s the reason I say make sure it’s got a high rating at least 4.0. The laptop I’m using has a Nvidea 7300 Go Video graphics with 128mb of dedecated memory which is not shared with the main memory which makes a big difference also. I could go on and on. But, I think you see what I’m saying. Don’t skimp out of the video when dealing with Vista, even tho you might can’t see the video, doesn’t mean that vista doesn’t. Sincerely: Kuvvosh From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Fioravanti Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:41 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Vista Why are the graphics so important? John ----- Original Message ----- From: Kuvvosh Suggs <mailto:sirruthan@xxxxxxxxx> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: RE: Vista If you are planning on getting a new laptop, that has vista, make sure it has at lest 2 or more gig of ram minimal and at least a intel 2 duo or AMD x2 core processor. Also, if possible ask to check for the scores in the demo laptop, as this will give you a idea of how good is the laptop. Tell them to go under performance under control panel and there will be the performance. They should be able to see the score given to each category. The highest score is 5.9 so with that in mind, the lower the score for each the slower the laptop will be. Graphics is the main one I would be looking at, if it’s got anything lower the a 4.0 rating I would not touch it unless it’s the only one they have that you can affored. Also most laptops do not come with a Hybrid Hard drive. Which helps vista run faster and saves battery power. Mine did not come with this, as I purchased it for newegg for 99 dollars, a 160 gig Samsung with 256 MB flash drive. Any way hope this helps. If need more information let me know. Kuvvosh From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Angie Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:04 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Vista Hello, Just a quick question. I am thinking about purchasing a new laptop, but it has Vista on it. What is your take on it working with Jaws. Does it work easily and was it hard to learn? Thank you! Angie No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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