this goes as far back as jaws 4.02 detecting body tags. from my own personal knowledge. I suspect it goes as far back as the virtual cursor. does with jaws and if memory servs me that was jaws 3.31. so now we know. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Ramsey Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:36 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: The ever continuing message message Hello, At the risk of giving the dead horse one more kick, and out of curiosity, I did not start hearing this message tag in the few members messages that it appears in until I installed JFW version 8 and that it is why it caught my attention so quickly. I am wondering if there is a feature in version 8 that enabled it on my end. Now that I think about it, Yardbird was using JFW 7 last I knew, so I guess it might be something going in OE. Take care, John