RE: Speaking of Lap Top Computers!

  • From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:18:40 -0700

Alan,
My HP Pavilion has a reasonably decent keyboard. It is a full keyboard and
the keys are separated far enough to be useable. I have also seen a Toshiba
full keyboard which is also useable.
I think you will have to get into the $500 to $600 range in order to get a
laptop which you can easily use. The 17 inch jobs seem to be alright but the
little web books are just too blamed small. Come to think of it, I honestly
believe that my HP Pavilion was classed as a netbook and not a laptop?
HTH
Cy, The Anasazi 

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Alan Dicey
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:44 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Speaking of Lap Top Computers!

Dear Cy,
Speaking of Lap Top computers, I was in Staples the other day, purchasing 
some office supplies, and I was looking at the lap top computers.
I really do not like the flat kind of keyboards they all seem to come with.
I know I can purchase for as little as $30 a standard keyboard, and plug it 
in with a USB connection, but that seems ridiculous.
Do you know of any lap tops that have a more standard, no, I know one will 
not come with a regular standard keyboard, but something at least a little 
closer to one than those lap top keyboards?
I am looking for a Lap Top that the keys stick up a bit.

The prices are indeed pretty good for a lap top, around $400 is a great buy 
in my book.
That would be a good way for me to get into Windows 7 little by little, 
without having to stress!

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
"Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: 
http://AmericanBlindChess.org


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: Why I am not going to use JAWS


> Garth,
> In today's environment the cost of a computer continues to shrink and you
> are correct. It is not at all unusual for a person to have a desktop and a
> laptop and even a netbook.
> I have a new HP laptop, an older Del laptop and an ancient HP desktop all 
> of
> which I use.
> As things stand now I probably have owned my last desktop as the HP 
> Pavilion
> has more hard disk and ram than the old desktop.
> I do have JAWS 11 on both laptops but the desktop still has JAWS 8 and it
> works for what I use it for. (LOLLOL)
> Cy, The Anasazi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of garth Humphreys
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 6:14 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>
> I could buy 3 or 4 computers for the cost of Jaws so I hardly think it is
> hypocritical.
>
> Garth
>
> On 21/12/2010, at 10:27 PM, "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> Would you mind listing all the specific applications you have found to
> work with that other screen reader?  It does not seem possible that an 
> open
> source screen reader could work with more applications than JAWS.  And as
> far as FS's licensing procedure is concerned, most blind users are 
> grateful
> just to have one computer, let alone three or four.  Anyone who can afford
> to own multiple computers can also afford to pay FS's licensing fees.  To
> me, it is hypocritical for someone who can afford to own more than one
> computer to criticize FS's pricing policies.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth"
> <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:05 AM
>> Subject: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>>
>>
>>> Hello all.
>>> I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom
> Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of 
> us
> can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as
> good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license
> JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial 
> screen
> readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one
> machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three
> authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more
> keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get
> paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and
> all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the
> same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer.
> True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of
> problems. Now for the technical,
> I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more
> applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true
> according to my personal experience.
>>> Sorry for the rant but you did suggest I state publicly my reasons. So
> there you go.
>>> Take care.
>>> -- 
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