oh so you are the definitive answer on what everyone on this lists knows? do you know how many people on this list every year ask about using windows live windows messenger and msn messenger? I don't because I lost count. providing such information and details of what one might need to do for use with jaws is what this list is for. if you do not find the information useful ser delete it. however jaws and the active versions of messenger that work with it are very much on topic for this list. of course if I am in error I am sure the list owner will inform me of same. unless he has turned it over to you ser and did not inform any one that person is not you! Jim Grimsby Jr. skype: Jim.grimsby I say what I mean! I mean what I say! From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy B Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:26 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Rolling Mandatory Upgrades - Phase 2 starting soon We already knew all of this...? -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Grimsby Jr. Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:09 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: FW: Rolling Mandatory Upgrades – Phase 2 starting soon HI THE BELOW should be helpful information for older jaws users. if you are using any of the clients on the xp box that need to be updated you will still be able to use windows messenger. hth Jim Grimsby Jr. skype: Jim.grimsby I say what I mean! I mean what I say! Feed: Inside Windows Live Messenger: Posted on: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:25 PM Author: Inside Windows Live Messenger: Subject: Rolling Mandatory Upgrades – Phase 2 starting soon Image removed by sender. posted by Rick Hi everyone, Rick here again. As you know, we are in the middle of a multi-phase rolling upgrade of the Messenger network that started last Wednesday, September 12. I wanted to give you an update on where we are in the process and what's coming next. The first phase of the Mandatory Security Upgrades focused on the Windows XP operation system and getting the rest of the XP user base onto Windows Live Messenger 8.1. Focusing on just XP has allowed our customer support teams to focus on Windows XP issues and it also reduced some of the network load created by the upgrades. We have seen some issues in these upgrades that we are trying to address in the HYPERLINK "http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=micro soft.public.windows.live.messenger" \nnewsgroups and through customer support. Your postings to the newsgroups and this blog have been very helpful in directing our support efforts to those areas that are preventing usage of the 8.1 client. Thank you for your postings, and please continue to let us know what kind of issues you are seeing with 8.1 on XP and Vista. In the second phase, we are turning on the Mandatory Security Upgrades for Windows 2000, Windows 98, Windows 98 SE, and Windows ME. As noted in the HYPERLINK "http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5B410F7FD930829E!28949.entry"; security bulletin, we have built a new version of MSN Messenger 7.0, build number 7.0.0820, that will run on Windows 2000. This version of MSN Messenger has also been tested for Windows 98, Windows 98 SE, and Windows ME. Users should expect these upgrades to start soon. To recap, the set of Messenger clients that do not have the webcam security vulnerability are: * Windows Live Messenger 8.1 (for XP and Vista) * MSN Messenger 7.0.0820 (for Windows 2000 and Windows 98, SE, ME) * Windows Messenger – all versions (XP only) * MSN Messenger 5.0 for Windows 95. * Microsoft Messenger for Macintosh (all versions) and ... Windows Live Messenger 8.5 which many of you are using in beta form. The third phase of the upgrades will focus on a small number of remaining clients that exhibit the webcam vulnerability. We're still working out the time line for this third phase, and we will keep you posted about when you can expect to see that upgrade roll out. Again, please continue to send us your feedback. Rick ---- If you have a comment on this post HYPERLINK "http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!5B410F7FD930829E!25468.entry"; please comment! 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