They get their service packs from third party sites, not from the auto upfater or windows site. chrissy ----- Original Message ----- From: Renette Bloem To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: RE: Release of SP3 delayed by bug Hi If the release was postponed, why can one then download and install Xp sp3? Renette