RE: Question: The Virtual Ribbon
- From: Rose Combs <rosecombs@xxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 05:46:46 -0700
I liked the virtual ribbons at first until I discovered that I could not
find a way to open some messages in my e-mail Outlook 2010. I turned them
back off because I know the keystrokes to accomplish this without having to
sort through menus or spend a lot of time on the ribbons. I have used the
ribbons since Word 2007 came out with Jaws 9 and 10 so it really is more or
less second nature to me by now. Tried them, and for a new user it would
probably decrease the learning curve but for someone who has worked with
them for a couple of years it was not all that much help. Oddly enough I
seldom use the QAT not even for the commands built in, never think of it and
I should.
Rose Combs
rosecombs@xxxxx
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Tom Lange
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 7:29 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Question: The Virtual Ribbon
Hi,
Yes, it's a JAWS 12 feature. Some people really like it and I can
understand why they do.
But, having said that, you can call me a purist, call me a hard-nose, call
me what you will, while I believe that the so-called "virtual ribbons" may
help some to locate items within the REAL ribbon, I, personally, am not keen
on the virtual ribbons. Here's why:
1. Disabling of key tips: Key tips are those key sequences which, when
pressed, will take you directly to an item within the ribbon and activate
it, no fuss, no muss. You can't use those with the "virtual ribbons" turned
on.
2. Isolation from the real interface: while the "virtual ribbon" can help
you to understand how the real ribbon system is structured, you may find
yourself somewhat disoriented if and/or when you have to confront the real
thing with another screen reader (heaven forbid!), or have to describe how a
sighted person might find the item that you're looking for.
Imho, better to spend the time exploring the galleries, the nooks and
crannies of the real ribbon system, and you'll get a better feel of what's
going on in there. Don't rush: be patient, take your time and really
explore: the time you spend doing this will serve you well. .
Just my couple of pennies worth, not quite factored for inflation, ha ha.
Tom
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