Re: New Hotmail format bad for JFW

  • From: "Tom Lange" <trlange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:49:08 -0800

Hi,
I'll concur with Seth on this one. In fact, that's the way that I check my
Hotmail account. Works great.
Tom

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Seth LeBlond" <Seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: New Hotmail format bad for JFW


> Hi:
>
> Just my two cents.  I use hotmail every day with JAWS 4.1 and with JAWS
5.0.
> I have had no problems whatsoever.  If, however, navigating the web site
is
> difficult for you, you might consider setting up your hotmail account in
> Outlook Express.  Then you can send, receive, and read all of your
messages,
> as well as perform all of the other functhios you might want to perform
with
> your email without ever accessing the site itself.  Just a suggestion.
>
>
> Regards,
> Seth Leblond
> Beyond Sight Sales and Technical Support
> Phone:  (303) 795-6455, EXT. 102
> Web Site:  <http://www.beyondsight.com>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Earle [mailto:e.zwicker@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:46 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: New Hotmail format bad for JFW
>
>
> I'm using Jaws 5, and I agree that the new layout has been designed
poorly,
> but for a free service, it isn't too bad.
>
> I don't like having to shift-tab back to the send link, but I can live
with
> that.
>
> As far as emptying folders, in Jaws 5, it'll tell you that the empty
option,
> is clickable, and you can hit enter on it.
>
> Having said all this, I really don't use the web site often enough to have
> problems.  I normally check my hotmail with outlook express.
>
> Overall, the web site is doable, but it definitely could have been
designed
> a lot better. Earle
> Email:
> e.zwicker@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Web Site:
> www.earles-place.com
> Msn:
> rowdyamerican@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Aim:
> Rowdyamerican28
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> Rowdyamerican
> ICQ:
> 155852055
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan Clendinen" <alanclendinen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:16 AM
> Subject: re: New Hotmail format bad for JFW
>
>
> Hello listers,
>
> Several of you responded to my original message by suggesting I upgrade to
> JFW 5.0. I have the 5.0 CD, but due to the numerous bugs reported by JFW
> list members, I have decided to wait for some patches before switching to
> 5.x.
>
> Some of you have confused JFW 3.7 with 3.7U. I'm using 3.7U, which is far
> less buggy than JFW 5.0.
>
> Another list member asked what version of Internet Explorer I'm using. I'm
> using version 5.5, which is the most recent version that is compatible
with
> JFW 3.7U.
>
> Until a few days ago, I had no problems with accessing all aspects of
> Hotmail. The problems I described are caused by Microsoft's "enhancement"
of
> Hotmail.
>
> Somebody else wrote that they were going to switch their students to Yahoo
> e-mail. Ha! Yahoo is even less accessible to JFW.
>
> I'd like to know from JFW 5.0 users who have accessed Hotmail through
their
> browsers since Microsoft made the format changes, if they have encountered
> the same problems I described in my previous message.
>
> Only one of the problems  might be fixed by upgrading to JFW 5.0 and IE 6,
> and that would be the graphical "empty junkmail" control that replaced the
> JFW-friendly button.
>
> The other problems I described will not be fixed by JFW 5.0. They are
design
> flaws...er... "features" of the new Hotmail. Regards, Alan
>
> I wrote:
> Hello listers,
>
> Have any of you that have a Hotmail account had problems with the latest
> format of Hotmail? For example, if you go to the junkmail folder, there
used
> to be a button labeled "Empty junkmail folder." Now, however, there is no
> such button, and they have replaced it with some text that reads, "Empty
> Junkmail" and to the left of the text, there is a graphic. I'm using JFW
> 3.7U, and my attempts to route the JAWS cursor to the pc cursor so I can
> click on that graphic are leaving me frustrated. I've only managed to do
it
> once out of several attempts.
>
> Hotmail has also eliminated the convenient links that were displayed after
> logging in. These links would tell you the number of messages in your
inbox
> without having to go to the inbox. Now you have no choice but to go there
to
> see if you've got messages.
>
> Hotmail has also made sending messages more inconvenient. It used to have
a
> "Send" button that could be reached with a single tab after typing your
> message. Now, you have to go back to the message header to click on the
> send.
>
> Bottom line? The "new and improved Hotmail" is a big step backwards in
> screen-reader accessibility.
>
> Alan
>
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