Hi, I'll concur with Seth on this one. In fact, that's the way that I check my Hotmail account. Works great. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth LeBlond" <Seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: RE: New Hotmail format bad for JFW > Hi: > > Just my two cents. I use hotmail every day with JAWS 4.1 and with JAWS 5.0. > I have had no problems whatsoever. If, however, navigating the web site is > difficult for you, you might consider setting up your hotmail account in > Outlook Express. Then you can send, receive, and read all of your messages, > as well as perform all of the other functhios you might want to perform with > your email without ever accessing the site itself. Just a suggestion. > > > Regards, > Seth Leblond > Beyond Sight Sales and Technical Support > Phone: (303) 795-6455, EXT. 102 > Web Site: <http://www.beyondsight.com> > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Earle [mailto:e.zwicker@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:46 AM > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: New Hotmail format bad for JFW > > > I'm using Jaws 5, and I agree that the new layout has been designed poorly, > but for a free service, it isn't too bad. > > I don't like having to shift-tab back to the send link, but I can live with > that. > > As far as emptying folders, in Jaws 5, it'll tell you that the empty option, > is clickable, and you can hit enter on it. > > Having said all this, I really don't use the web site often enough to have > problems. I normally check my hotmail with outlook express. > > Overall, the web site is doable, but it definitely could have been designed > a lot better. Earle > Email: > e.zwicker@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Web Site: > www.earles-place.com > Msn: > rowdyamerican@xxxxxxxxxxx > Aim: > Rowdyamerican28 > Yahoo Messenger: > Rowdyamerican > ICQ: > 155852055 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Clendinen" <alanclendinen@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:16 AM > Subject: re: New Hotmail format bad for JFW > > > Hello listers, > > Several of you responded to my original message by suggesting I upgrade to > JFW 5.0. I have the 5.0 CD, but due to the numerous bugs reported by JFW > list members, I have decided to wait for some patches before switching to > 5.x. > > Some of you have confused JFW 3.7 with 3.7U. I'm using 3.7U, which is far > less buggy than JFW 5.0. > > Another list member asked what version of Internet Explorer I'm using. I'm > using version 5.5, which is the most recent version that is compatible with > JFW 3.7U. > > Until a few days ago, I had no problems with accessing all aspects of > Hotmail. The problems I described are caused by Microsoft's "enhancement" of > Hotmail. > > Somebody else wrote that they were going to switch their students to Yahoo > e-mail. Ha! Yahoo is even less accessible to JFW. > > I'd like to know from JFW 5.0 users who have accessed Hotmail through their > browsers since Microsoft made the format changes, if they have encountered > the same problems I described in my previous message. > > Only one of the problems might be fixed by upgrading to JFW 5.0 and IE 6, > and that would be the graphical "empty junkmail" control that replaced the > JFW-friendly button. > > The other problems I described will not be fixed by JFW 5.0. They are design > flaws...er... "features" of the new Hotmail. Regards, Alan > > I wrote: > Hello listers, > > Have any of you that have a Hotmail account had problems with the latest > format of Hotmail? For example, if you go to the junkmail folder, there used > to be a button labeled "Empty junkmail folder." Now, however, there is no > such button, and they have replaced it with some text that reads, "Empty > Junkmail" and to the left of the text, there is a graphic. I'm using JFW > 3.7U, and my attempts to route the JAWS cursor to the pc cursor so I can > click on that graphic are leaving me frustrated. I've only managed to do it > once out of several attempts. > > Hotmail has also eliminated the convenient links that were displayed after > logging in. These links would tell you the number of messages in your inbox > without having to go to the inbox. Now you have no choice but to go there to > see if you've got messages. > > Hotmail has also made sending messages more inconvenient. It used to have a > "Send" button that could be reached with a single tab after typing your > message. Now, you have to go back to the message header to click on the > send. > > Bottom line? The "new and improved Hotmail" is a big step backwards in > screen-reader accessibility. > > Alan > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.