Moderator warnings
- From: "Peterson, Jody L" <jody.peterson@xxxxxxx>
- To: "'jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:16:56 -0500
Maybe you should warn individuals about their posts instead of clogging the
list with your warnings. This is more annoying than the off-topic posts
themselves. At least with them, we might learn something.
Just my $.02. Please don't kick me off the list as I do follow the rules.
Jody Peterson
EDS - CRM Applications Delivery
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Bruce Toews
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:36 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Yahoo and the Graphic
It's the misspelling of someone who's been sick as a dog for the last four
days but is still trying to do his job. I will start putting people on
moderator status if they continue to choose to ignore the rule on subject
lines and/or the one on off-topic posts. We already had one grammar checker
on this list, we don't need a spell checker too.
Bruce
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, trouble wrote:
> What's puppting? not in dictionary.
>
> At 10:10 PM 1/28/04 -0600, you wrote:
> >Look folks, I will say this one more time.
> >
> >First, empty subject lines are not appropriate for the list. Second,
> >the discussion of the graphic is not appropriate. I will start
> >puppting people of moderator status if this thread is not immediately
> >stopped.
> >
> >Bruce
> >
> >--
> >Bruce Toews
> >E-Mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx
> >Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> >http://www.ogts.net For the best oldies anywhere go to
> >http://www.treasureislandoldies.com
> >
> >On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Grant Hardy wrote:
> >
> > > I totally don't want to criticize Pickrell and others for the
> > > valuable advice we get here. But Yahoo!'s objective for their word
> > > in the picture is so that a machine cannot automatically register
> > > for a Yahoo! account. 0spam's method, though easier for us, is not
> > > secure and a machine could still register for a Yahoo! account if
> > > they used this method. Here is the response I got back:
> > >
> > > Hello Grant,
> > >
> > > Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Account Services.
> > >
> > > At this time Yahoo! does not have a means of bypassing the word
> > > verification image for visually impaired users, aside from
> > > contacting Customer Care. We are exploring other alternatives,
> > > but unfortunately, some of those alternatives recreate the very
> > > problem we are trying to solve. We are aware of your concern and
> > > we want you to know that we are currently working on this problem.
> > >
> > > During account registration, visually impaired users are directed
> > > to the following "feedback" form:
> > >
> > > http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/edit/cgi_access
> > >
> > > The URL for this form is provided in hidden text on the
> > > registration form that is machine-readable but not visible on the
> > > page. After the user has completed the form, a Yahoo!
> > > representative will call the user and complete the registration
> > > process over the phone. The user will also receive a response
> > > containing a toll free number specifically dedicated to
> > > registration for visually impaired users. We are working on
> > > streamlining this process for faster turn around time and greater
> > > convenience for the user.
> > >
> > > When joining or creating a Yahoo! Group, below the word
> > > verification image there is a link that says "If you can not see
> > > this image click here." Clicking on this link will enable a popup
> > > window with an explanation of the word verification image as well
> > > as white-on-white text that points visually impaired users to the
> > > following feedback form:
> > >
> > > http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/groups/cgi_vi
> > >
> > > After submitting the form, the user will be contacted by a Yahoo!
> > > Groups Customer Care representative via email for the information
> > > necessary to complete the process.
> > >
> > > You are free to distribute the above URLs to anyone who can
> > > benefit from them, and we encourage you to do so. However, we do
> > > want to mention that we hid the text on the pages because we found
> > > a number of users were taking advantage of a service meant only
> > > for our visually impaired users. That caused a delay in helping
> > > the very users the feedback forms were intended for.
> > >
> > > We hope you find the above solution workable for you and other
> > > visually impaired users, and we hope they do register and take
> > > advantage of all the features Yahoo! has to offer.
> > >
> > > Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Customer Care
> > >
> > > For assistance with all Yahoo! services, please visit:
> > >
> > > http://help.yahoo.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Andrew Edgcumbe
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:01 PM
> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re:
> > >
> > > Hi Rebecca and list members
> > >
> > > I did complain once about this issue.
> > >
> > > Yahoo said that they did have some complaints about the picture.
> > >
> > >
> > > If anybody wants the email address to complain to yahoo please
> > > email me off list.
> > >
> > > I feel if everybody on this list complains maybe they will listen.
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: "Blind College Students (E-mail)"
> > > <BlindVIcollegeStudents@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Blindtech (E-mail)"
> > > <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: "Jfwlite (E-mail)" <JFWlite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "JAWS and
> > > employment (E-mail)" <jfw-employment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:14 PM
> > > Subject: FW:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi folks. Here is the response I got from 0 spam along with my
> > > > question.
> > > >
> > > > These guys seem like good people.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jeff Anderson [mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:12 AM
> > > > To: Pickrell, Rebecca M.
> > > > Subject: Re:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The link is white as well as the background, so it can not be
> > > > seen by regular people. I could try to contact Yahoo and
> > > > Hotmail about
> > > implementing
> > > > this.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Anderson
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <support@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:55 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi. I want to compliment 0 spam on its varification method.
> > > > >
> > > > > The link that blind people can click on which then allows the
> > > varification
> > > > > code to be emailed to the sender is wonderful. I wish Yahoo
> > > > > and
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > along with a number of others would employ your method. As it
> > > > > stands
> > > now,
> > > > > Yahoo's method is of no help since they do not respond to
> > > > > phone calls
> > > and
> > > > > email and Microsoft's varification (an audio of the word that
> > > > > needs to
> > > be
> > > > > entered) is so garbled as to be nearly useless.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you don't mind sharing with me, how do you make the link so
> > > > > that
> > only
> > > > > screen-readers can use it?
> > > > >
> > > > > If this information is proprietory, would you mind sharing
> > > > > your idea
> > > with
> > > > > engineers at Yahoo and Microsoft?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Rebecca Pickrell
> > > > > phone: 703-633-8300 x4582
> > > > > email: rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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