Hi List, The path for the jfwKill.exe file in XP Home is: c:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\9.0\jfwkill.exeIf you are using either JAWS 7.10 or JAWS 8.0, just put those version numbers in the path instead of 9.0
Hope this helps, Don----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:41 PM Subject: Re: Kill JAWS Simplified
Where is this runtime folder you're referring to? And as for the topic in general, I think I'm just going to call or email FS tech support and ask someone about this. When I have time. I'll report anything useful that Ilearn. it's become frustrating that we're all guessing what these things doand all that. Seems finally to be a lot of unnecessary aimless speculation if someone who knew could just explain without much difficulty. Not to be dismissive or unappreciative of anyone who tried to contribute to this thread, but sometimes it just gets like an aimless guessing game, going nowhere. As I say, if I can find out anything solid, I'll share.----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Levine" <rlstation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Kill JAWS Simplified Hi Dan, jfwkill.exe can be found in the runtime jaws folder for all versions of jaws. I executed the program and it seemed to work, but I am not sure it does the same thing as taskkill.exe with XP Pro. It appears that with XP Home jfwkill.exe will have to be the choice. Maybe jfwkill.exe is the same as the Jaws key + Windows Key + F4 combo. Roger----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:52 AM Subject: Re: Kill JAWS SimplifiedHi all, I hate to butt in here since i haven't followed this from the beginning but maybe this could help. In older versions of Jaws there was a couple of programs that could be used to kill Jaws. They were jstop.exe and jfwkill.exe. I used them somuch that I ended up keeping my own copies when I saw that jfwkill.exe was dropped from the distribution. If you still have version 6 or earlier CDsyou might find it on them. If you can get them you could just setup a shortcut to those executables and they do a very clean job of killing Jaws. I hope this helps.----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave 'SqueezeBox' Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:50 PM Subject: Re: Kill JAWS SimplifiedHmmm. Don't know Roger, but it works flawlessly on my XP Pro machine, using the taskkill.exe file in the shortcut. Sorry it's seemingly obtuse. Good luck. Dave----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Levine" <rlstation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Kill JAWS Simplified Hi once again, I have already tried the simplified method on my XP Home machine and found that it does not work. Their must be some nuances about this which we obviously don't know. My wife says I am a Pit Bull about these kind of problems. We have to remain good natured about this technical pursuit.Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Kill JAWS SimplifiedDave, thanks for the advice. Not to upset you, because you went to so much trouble below, but I think if you'd read my earlier messages, you'd have seen that I did all these other steps just fine. I knew how to create a shortcut on the desktop and set a hotkey for it and all of that. the whole problem was just figuring out which file to use. And doing it directly like this is what I would have thought of first if someone hadn't posted the suggestion for abatch file or two. I just thought they must have a reason I wasn't awareof for doing that, so I just went with it. but this is how I'd launch anything from a desktop shortcut, actually. Now, I'm not sure that the batch file actually need have gotten in the way, but at least trying it this way will simplify the process and take that out of the mix. I'll just go back into that folder and do it this way. Who knows? It might just work. From: "Dave 'SqueezeBox' Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: Kill JAWS Simplified Forget the batch file. Do this:1. Use Windows Explorer to browse to the executable file in the system32folder under windows. 2. Highlight either taskkill.exe or tskkill.exe or whatever is the spelling for your version of windows. 3. Press the Application key (context menu). 4. Arrow down to "send to" and right arrow. 5. arrow down to "Desktop (create shortcut)" and press enter. 6. Close Explorer and go to the desktop. 7. Find the shortcut you just created. 8. Highlight that icon and press F2. 9. Give it a meaningful name, if desired and press Enter. 10. Again highlight the same icon and press Alt+Enter. 11. You'll be on the target (command) line. Press the End key to go to the end of the command line.12. press the spacebar to insert a blank space at the end and then type:/f /im jfw.exe 13. Tab twice and set up a shortcut key if desired. 14. Press Enter to save the work. That's it. Use it from the desktop or with the shortcut key. No batch file needed. Dave----- Original Message ----- From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.bissett@xxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:59 PM Subject: RE: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it rightThat window now I remember we used to call the dos prompt and that's how we work in it. The stuff you were seeing can be cleared by typing "cls" I am sure you remember that command. Then the only thing you have belowthe windows bar at the top is the dos prompt but it picks up the path from your home folder "c:\documents and settings\yardbird". The reason I suggested this approach was that when you execute yourbatch file any errors will remain in the window rather than just openingexecuting closing as when you run your batch from the short cut because when the window closes you have know idea what happened. I hope this clears it up a bit. Tom Bissett BMO Financial Group Technology and Operations Integrated Client Solutions Tel: (416) 549-6514 E-Mail tom.bissett@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:01 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right You're right. Exit worked. It just sounds, using jaws, as if what's in that box is part of a folder tree view, and it was hard to imagine that I could just type something, any more than I'd type something directly onto the screen when I'm in Windows Explorer. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.bissett@xxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: RE: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right Type "exit" and the command prompt will close propperly Tom Bissett BMO Financial Group Technology and Operations Integrated Client Solutions Tel: (416) 549-6514 E-Mail tom.bissett@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:59 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right And how do you get out of that command box or whatever it is? It's notas if I can't alt f 4 out of it to do other things, but I'd like to just exit it properly. Do I have to be careful not to type or delete anythingin it? What's its purpose? Why was I recommended to launch it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "RAWest" <rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: RE: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right To open the command prompt in the run dialog type cmd and press enter. I believe it is also in all programs, accessories Robert To find me you can do the following. Skype id: rawest24 Aim id: rawest24 EMail: rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:55 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right Roger, By "replace" you mean correct the spelling? Thanks, but I just did and thatdidn't help, either. In fact, that window no longer flashes when I clickon the icon. Here is the corrected line from the batch file, which as I said, Icopied directly from what was provided early in the thread by someone. Ideleted the "a" from the filename: : tskkill /F /IM jfw.exe Maybe one of the other suggestions that were provided in this thread uses a path to the file? Because I believe one version of this that I saw earlier includes a path under c:\ involving a few numeraals. So please look again at the above line and consider that it might give the batch file incorrect directions?Thanks. I wish I could remember the more complex filename I saw for thisfile earlier, but I can't. long a different path ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Levine" <rlstation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: Re: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right Hi, If you are using XP home, then replace "taskkill" with "tskill". After you have tryed this, let us know. Good Luck, Roger----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:30 AM Subject: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it rightFollowing directions that were provided here, I created a file named killjaws.bat in a chosen folder using these lines: echo off taskkill /F /IM jfw.exe I went to the file and created a Desktop shortcut icon for it, using the Send To function. Then I went to the new icon, went into its properties, and created a hotkey for it so I could invoke the batch file next time Jaws lost speech. So far, so good. But when I pressed my hotkey combo, nothing happened. I checked to seeifmy hotkey had held, and it had. I went to the desktop, focused on theicon,and pressed Enter to activate it. Again, nothing happened. I did a restart in order to see if that might have been needed. Itmade nodifference. The only thing I can report helpfully is visual evidenceI'munable to make sense of. And that is, when I activate this shortcut, a small dark rectangle I assume to be some sort of notification flashes ontothescreen and disappears, all within a fraction of a second. Even if Icouldread, and therefore wouldn't need Jaws in the first place, I probably couldn't see what this thing says because it flashes by so fast. Sothatdoesn't help me describe what's going on. Does anyone have an idea what it is that's not working right? Could itbethat you can't just exit Jaws this way in a normal situation, insteadofunloading it with Insert F4? You have to be in a situation where Jaws loses speech? 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