I find that since the introduction of the virtual viewer tabbing is not the best way to navigate a web page. I had the habit from the old days but now I find the arrow keys and navigation quick keys is so much better to navigate the webpage. I believe the wrap function does not really apply to the tab because of the introduction of the toolbar. Tom Bissett BMO Financial Group Technology and Operations Integrated Client Solutions Tel: (416) 549-6514 E-Mail tom.bissett@xxxxxxx<mailto:tom.bissett@xxxxxxx> ________________________________ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Logue Sent: October 28, 2009 3:58 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Jfw 10 and i e 8 I'm looking for that now. It also annoys me when I get into the IE8 toolbars. I thought jaws was supposed to wrap back to the top when you tabbed past the last tabible element on a page. It really annoys me when tabbing around a page and Jaws gets confused, looses the virtual cursor, and you end up in the toolbars again. Wrap Navigation in HTML Options is turned on. Also, Top And Bottom Edge - Alert With Sound inAdjust JAWS Options (Jawskey+v is also on. Often it helps to turn Flash Movies Recognize - off and Page Refresh - Off . But, it still doesn't stop us from tabbing into the address bar and those pesky toolbars. Another annoying thing is that Jaws sometimes goes right to the last element on a page instead of the first one when you press tab after landing on the page. Then the next tab goes to the address bar. I'm not sure when this started being a problem with Jaws. I know other screen readers do this so I suspect it is a behaviour of Internet Explorer but I wish Jaws wouldn't do that. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Stacey Robinson<mailto:staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:32 PM Subject: Jfw 10 and i e 8 Hi all, Is there any way to set jfw so that all these different toolbars and things don't show up when I tab through a web page? Thanks, Have a blessed day, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley Eagleville, Tennessee. staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> stacey.robinson36@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:stacey.robinson36@xxxxxxxxx>