Thanks, Rose. I found it. Hope your weekend is more relaxed than the week was. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:40 AM Subject: RE: JFW & Audible In Help, there is a book that deals with internet explorer. It explains personalized web pages and HTML options, book marks and so forth. Sorry I did not answer sooner, it has been a busy week. Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:19 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JFW & Audible rose, I confess that I'm not as expert as you appear to be with these settings, and I don't understand what you said in a couple of messages. What category do these settings fall into in the Configuration Manager and the Insert V options? How do you set Jaws to ignore the announcement of mouse-over link and just have it say "link?" I'd love to turn off a lot of that because, on the Web sites I frequent, I don't think anything vital is contained in those extra messages someone can see by touching the link with the mouse pointer. I'm pretty sure it's all just redundant, pleasant stuff to induce me to click on something by describing the pleasures and benefits to be gotten by clicking on the link. Maybe this trick is used to showcase really substantive information somewhere else, but I don't think that's the case for anywhere I'm likely to browse, most days. Just complaining. So, how do you do it. Or, if you prefer, which part of the Jaws help documentation do you look in to find instruction? that would be fine with me, too. Not asking you to compose instructions here. thank you. I say, that applies to the sites I frequent. nedd benfits ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:46 AM Subject: RE: JFW & Audible I personalize web pages as I get to them based on the content I need to hear. I only make a couple of changes in the configuration manager, usually related to graphics, I think I generally set it to read labeled graphics and I change my voice scheme to rent-a-crowd. All the rest of the stuff I do through the verbosity insert V menu if I don't plan to revisit the page often, or through the personalize shift-insert-V menu. Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 1:11 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JFW & Audible Rose, So you ou do this rather than going into one of the Configuration Manager menus and making a global adjustment? Or is it an alternative to globally turning off that type of link? Also, I'm assuming that this doesn't disable or delete those links, but rather just makes them announce themselves more plainly. Am I correct? I certainly don't wish to make all the links on the Audible site disappear! I just want them to shut up. Thanks. lobablly ome ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: RE: JFW & Audible Press insert-shift V and you will hear personalize web page or something similar, then three is the usual list where in you press the space bar on any item to change its status. Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:11 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JFW & Audible this sounds like a very appealing option. I'm not familiar with where it is you make these settings, Rose, either as defaults or specific to a particular URL. I certainly don't mind reading the instructions, but could you tell me which topic to look for in Jaws help in order to learn about this feature? Thanks very much, Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: RE: JFW & Audible This is where the personalize web page feature is great, you can turn off the mouse-over links for pages where you don't need them by going to read elements and turning it off or on, on pages where they are helpful you can leave the feature running. I leave my configuration set to show the defaults and do personalize web pages for pages where either the mouse-over does not do anything or where I don't need to hear them. Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:50 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JFW & Audible Wow, I'm really glad you mentioned your solution, because I had no idea 1. that youcould turn off the mouse-over links that now announce themselves all over the Web, and 2. that if you did, you'd wipe out Jaws's ability to see most links on some pages. I am an Audible customer, and on the audible site, as on some others with links of this type, I've nearly blocked out the distracting announcement while waiting to hear the actual name of the link. Hard to explain. In any case, thanks for reporting this experience. anhy 2ith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Gillard" <kgillard@xxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:35 AM Subject: Re: JFW & Audible Well I figured it out. I needed to adjust the config manager to accommodate those pesky mouse over links on Odible. I turned off graphical links in order to browse EBay faster which hid the important links on the Audible sight.. erk! ! Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:27 PM Subject: Re: JFW & Audible > Hi, > I am still using Jaws 6.0, and haven't yet installed jaws 6.20. At this > point, everything on the Audible site is as accessible as it was for me > with earlier versions. Your inquiry is the first time I've heard anyone > say > that the update may have ruined their Audible access. Any other Audible > users here who've also downloaded and installed version 6.20? It's hard > to > believe that it could mess up the accessibility of that site so much. But > if it does, that's a serious problem for a lot of Jaws users, I'd say. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Gillard" <kgillard@xxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:20 PM > Subject: JFW & Audible > > > hello, > > Since I have installed jfw 6.02 I have not been able to find links like My > account, Herd programs, add to shopping cart etc on Audible's web site. > Has > anyone else experienced this phenomena? 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