RE: JFW 8 cutting off beginnings of words under Vista
- From: "Ron McEwan" <ron.mcewan@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:50:49 -0700
Actually my issue was with xp pro sp2 and jfw 8. I have not noticed it at
all with jfw 9.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Chip Orange
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:33 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: JFW 8 cutting off beginnings of words under Vista
Hi Ron,
I can't find Jack's original post to reply to.
Since I see it's jaws 8, it's not covered by the TSB and Vista that I
mentioned separately; that, they said, was only a jfw 9 issue, and they said
jfw 8 eloquence would work fine under Vista, just slower.
I think both of you are seeing an issue from the Centrino chip (only used on
some laptops) trying to conserve power. Many of the sound drivers written
for it turn the sound card off, when running under battery, when it's not
making sound.
Eloquence is using the sound card one word at a time, so it's being turned
off between words.
One way to work around this is to go to your power scheme list and choose
one for maximum performance rather than one that's meant to conserve
power/battery life. I think that's why you noticed the problem went away
when the laptop was on a/c.
You could try and find later sound drivers; many times I've heard they've
rewritten them so as not to turn off the sound card quite so frequently.
The other thing to do is to try jfw 9 to see if eloquence 9 now leaves the
sound card turned on between words. If it does not, get on the phone, don't
use email, and get them to escalate the issue so that eloquence gets
modified. Once you can show them it does not happen on a/c, they can then
see it's probably related to a power scheme issue, and can verify what I'm
telling you.
We've discussed this on the list almost as soon as the Centrino came out
many years ago, so FS has no excuse here.
hth,
Chip
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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron McEwan
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:44 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: JFW 8 cutting off beginnings of words under Vista
>
> I did have this issue with my new hp laptop for work.
>
> I called FS tech support with the usual no help response.
>
> I think, long time ago now, that I fixed the issue by changing synths
> to a different ver of eloquence.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Chen
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:24 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: JFW 8 cutting off beginnings of words under Vista
>
> I have a Thinkpad X61 running Vista home basic. I am also using the
> latest revision of JFW 8. The beginnings of all of the beginnings of
> Jaws speech are cut off, and there is a click. Has anyone else
> experienced this?
>
> For example, instead of saying star, star, star when typing my log in
> password, it will say tar, tar, tar.
> Sometimes when the computer is plugged into the power, the problem
> goes away. If I run Windows Media Player and pause the audio, then
> the beginnings of the Jaws speech are not cut off unless I don't hit a
> key for about 3 seconds. Then the beginning will get cut off again.
>
> jack
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jim grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:15 PM
> Subject: RE: vista, double speaking?
>
>
> > Nope sorry I cannot reproduce this vista is working like a
> dream on all of
> > my boxes.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of J. Black
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:55 AM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: vista, double speaking?
> >
> >
> > When I go into say, task manager, to check my cpu meter,
> which I found by
> > the way, can be aded to gadgits, jaws double speaks, as if
> there is a
> > secondary voice that starts when you enter into this area. It also
> > happened in one other area which I now had forgotten. Has anyone
> experienced jaws
> > speaking as if two voices are set to talk?
> >
> > thans,
> >
> > Julian
> >
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