Re: JAWS in auto forms mode, particularly in edit fields

  • From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:03:16 -0500

Peter,

When I'm on a website that's new to me, it happens that I always like to find 
the top of the page and work down from there. If I'm looking for a particular 
edit field, one or two presses of the e key will get me there more reliably 
than if I stay where JAWS has put me, which could be anywhere.

By contrast, when I use a page often, I'm glad if JAWS dependably places me 
right on, say, the sign-in field. I can just start typing. That little sound 
JAWS 10 makes to indicate that I'm in an edit field is helpful for the same 
reason.

Perhaps I'm being dense and not understanding your point. I certainly don't 
want to belabor mine. It was just a thought in case it helped others. But 
you're right about the escape key. Best to press it rather than an arrow key to 
get out of forms mode.
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:55 AM

But what is easier. To have to press escape then control and home before you 
can navigate, or to just have to press E once the page loads to get to your 
logon screen. Not so bad if you only ever visit a couple of sites, but if you 
go around all over the place and don't know or can't remember what all the 
first edit fields are then it becomes a problem because you ahve to go out of 
forms mode to find out what the edit field is.

Peter

From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:03 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS in auto forms mode, particularly in edit fields

When JAWS lands on an auto form as a page opens, I may arrow up once and then 
press control-home to go to the top of the page so that the JAWS quick keys can 
do their good work. Otherwise, it's helpful that JAWS does land right on that 
first forms field so that, for example, I can sign in right away.
----- Original Message -----
From: Roy Nickelson
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:37 PM

sounds like the navigation quick key delay setting might be a good one for you 
to check out. Roy

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Giles
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:41 PM

I love autoforms mode, but I hate it on pages with the auto focus in an edit 
field, like google and youtube. As I use quick navigation keys a lot, it gets 
really annoying when I hit H for the next heading and it starts typing and I 
don't realize it so press enter, and it searches for something with an H at the 
beginning of my search query. The page will load and I'll hit escape or numpad 
plus to get out of forms mode, but then the page reloads and forms mode gets 
turned on again. So I'll think forms mode is off since I've told JAWS to get 
out of it, but then it'll start typing.

Kind of ironic how pre JAWS 10, I'd sometimes forget to turn forms mode on and 
start jumping all over the page, which got really annoying when a sighted 
person was trying to help me with something. And now that there's autoforms 
mode, it is activating sometimes when I don't want it.

Is there a way to leave autoforms mode on, but require you to manually enter 
forms mode on pages with auto focus to edit fields? I would love that.

Brian

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