I've been having a problem for some time, with JAWS 8 not reading the right message at the list of those which are grouped by conversation. It appears that JAWS is looking at the next message down the list. When I'm at the top of a list, it tells me that it's 2 of 100, for example. Why isn't it counting the first message? Can anything be done about this. I don't believe I had this problem with JAWS 7, but haven't used 7 in awhile, so don't remember. Cindy "Determine that the thing can and shall be done, and then...find the way." Abraham Lincoln -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx