Hi Tom, Thanks for the complement. I've been at this stuff for a while (JAWS for Windows 2.4) and have picked up a few items from time to time. But it's lists like this that really do help in ferreting out details concerning how you use technology. I'm not shy about helping out where I can. Interesting thing about the differences between 5 and 4.51. A friend of mine said in passing that 5 was buggy and not up to par. Comments, anyone? Francis -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx