Re: JAWS 12 Beta

  • From: Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:27:32 -0500

One at a time is prudent.  Heh, funny guy.  I seem to remember
something in the agreement about how they don't want you running
multiple screen readers or be in a position where you can compare or
might potentially compare the beta to a competitors product ... It was
legalese.  Not good with legalese.  I ended up not going for it
because I didn't want to risk being in violation.  The amount of time
you had to spend on it seemed like it would be pretty big and I am not
in a positon to do a proper job of it right now as well.  I also
thought it was rather poor taste of fs to have folks test out their
buggy product and not give people a discount on an upgrade or
something like that but, that's neither here nor there.  I'm just
curious if the suggestion I made that the editor made by the people
they constantly refer web developers to for how to write an accessible
web page had been thought of in this version and would it work with
it.  I write html documents and it'd be nice to be able to use this
editor with Jaws since it's free, has built-in accessibility checking
for the output and supports all sorts of web-related things like svg,
xml, math ml and so on.

Thanks.
Alex M

On 9/9/10, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Why is it a no-no? If you've paid for those for which payment is required,
> and have downloaded those that are free, you should be able to run any and
> all of them on your system. I would guess one at a time is prudent.
>
> Dave
> Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 09:50
> Subject: Re: JAWS 12 Beta
>
>
> Howdy,
>
> Have any of you guys tried to use Amaya with Jaws 12?  It's the w3c's
> html editor.  It's supposed to be wysiwyg and have all these neat
> features.  Also, lots of work went into the menus to make them
> accessible.  Never could get jaws 10 or 11 to work with it though.  I
> am not a beta tester because I run more than one screen reader on my
> machine and I think that is a no-no.
>
> Alex M
>
> On 9/9/10, Lisle, Ted  (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx> wrote:
>> Yes, that's what I had in mind.  Presumably the old video settings will
>> overwrite the new.  We'll see what happens.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ted
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>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:51 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: JAWS 12 Beta
>>
>>
>>
>> Ted,
>>
>>
>>
>> If you don't have JAWS 10 still installed, you should be able to install
>> it from your CD or the downloadable file and have it co-reside.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <mailto:Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
>>
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 06:41
>>
>> Subject: RE: JAWS 12 Beta
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm flirting with the idea of reverting to 10, then jumping back
>> to 12.  After all, 10 was the last time Access worked.  I filed a beta
>> report, and mentioned that strategy; let's see what I get back.  Sounds
>> like a weekend project to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: JAWS 12 Beta
>>
>>
>>
>> Ted,
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with both your points, and unfortunately don't have any
>> idea on how to help you with MS-Access.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, Text Analyzer could be really nice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose,
>> California
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <mailto:Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
>>
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 04:50
>>
>> Subject: RE: JAWS 12 Beta
>>
>>
>>
>> The whole thing was pretty smooth.  I was underwhelmed
>> by the virtual ribbon, and turned it off. However, I noticed that 12's
>> handling of the Microsoft ribbon is better than 10-11's.  Unfortunately,
>> Access still doesn't work.  I'd darn near give a week's pay to know what
>> broke between 10 and 11; why only this one application, and what is the
>> hardware-software interaction on my particular machine?
>>
>>
>>
>> The Big sleeper here may be Text Analyzer.  For those of
>> us who write, this could be a real bonus.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:44 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: JAWS 12 Beta
>>
>>
>>
>> Ted,
>>
>>
>>
>> This one is pretty benign. And yes, they can coexist so
>> you can switch back/forth. I recommend that you make sure you have your
>> current JAWS shortcut set to a hotkey like Ctrl+Shift+J to make it
>> easier to launch.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also note that after you install the JAWS 12 Beta, it
>> will turn off the auto launch of your current JAWS, so make sure you set
>> that back before rebooting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San
>> Jose, California
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
>> <mailto:Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
>>
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 09:15
>>
>> Subject: JAWS 12 Beta
>>
>>
>>
>> I've never fooled with one of these before.  If
>> I decide to install, I gather from the Web site that it will coexist
>> with JAWS 11, and will, presumably, run until the commercial product is
>> available.  Anything I need to know about the installation or
>> uninstallation process?  Given all the problems with 11, I'm partly
>> hopeful, and more than a little gun shy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist;
>> phone: (502) 564-2574, X 2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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