Re: [Bulk] Re: Here is the PDF file I'm talking about!

  • From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:36:47 -0700

Brandon,

Sounds like you need to adjust Kurzweil to do the recognition in a way that 
results in fewer line breaks. Otherwise you'll need to do some heavy editing 
in MS-Word to remove excess spaces and line breaks using search/edit, and 
that's really not germane to this list.

Dave
Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brandon Keith" <brandonboy13@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:58
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Here is the PDF file I'm talking about!


Awesome! so here is the big guy... Does anyone have any idea of how to get
rid of the mile long line breaks either with jaws, word or Kurzweil?
I would like to be able to arrow through the script with the up and down
arrow keys with out always hearing "blank" after every one or two down
strokes. I would like the words to be on different lines, but not 3 to 20
lines away from each other.
like:

ME
Without a line break everything is shorter to read
YOU
sure it is...
ME
Yep, it's a breeze!


Thank you,

Brandon Keith

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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:30 PM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Here is the PDF file I'm talking about!

> Ed, one small  objection. I find OmniPage 17 quite fast, as well as
> simple,
> so long as you operate it via the applications key, as another lister
> indicates later on in this thread. I'm led to believe OmniPage 17 is also
> more accurate than other OCR applications. It's certainly performed well
> for
> me.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Marquette, Ed
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:05 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Here is the PDF file I'm talking about!
>
> Unfortunately, I get these "images" all the time.  You can use either
> OmniPage; however, that is often rather slow and a bit cumbersome.
> Another option is PDF Converter.  It converts PDF documents into Word (or
> other formatted documents).  It is fast and easy.  It is installed as an
> option within Word and within Office email.
> So, just click on the PDF attachment and the document is converted.
> The beauty is that it converts whether it is a true PDF document, i.e.,
> one
> with real text, or an image.  In other words, it has an OCR engine
> built-in.
> I got mine free with OmniPage, but I'll bet you can buy it free-standing.
> I
> think it may use the same OCR engine as does OmniPage.  That same engine
> used to be what did the OCR work in OpenBook, but I haven't used OpenBook
> for years.  So, I don't know what OCR engine it uses now.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Farfar Carlson
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:58 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Here is the PDF file I'm talking about!
>
> Likely.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: Here is the PDF file I'm talking about!
> From: "Brandon Keith" <brandonboy13@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 10-14-2010 08:43
>
> Ahh, OK, what about curswale (or how ever you spell it XD)...
> Will that work as well?
> Thank you,
>
> Brandon Keith
>
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>
>
> From: Farfar Carlson
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:25 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Here is the PDF file I'm talking about!
>
>
> Openbook from Freedom Scientific will work on these, as well as those
> already printed out on paper.
>
> I've also seen others recommending Omnipage.
>
> You are basically needing an optical character recognition application
> that
> can process your image files as though you're sending them to a printer.
>
>
> Dave
> Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Brandon Keith
>  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 07:52
>  Subject: Re: Here is the PDF file I'm talking about!
>
>
>  Thank you,
>  Are there any good programs that do the character recognition that are
> accessible?
>  I get documents like this all the time either for school or work and I
> need to know what they are saying in a matter of hours. I have to then
> drop
> everything I'm doing and go find a sighted person who can read this
> document
> to me, then type it out by hand as they read it to me.
>  It is very frustrating and sighted people can't tell the difference
> between this PDF document and normal text PDFs.
>  Thank you,
>
>  Brandon Keith
>
>  Check out
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>  Also add me on facebook!
>  brandonkeith
>
>
>  From: GlenJan
>  Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:10 AM
>  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: Re: Here is the PDF file I'm talking about!
>
>
>  Hello Dave,
>  Thanks for that info;  I was aware of this but was trying to make the
> point - badly - that calling a document a PDF file does not necessarily
> make
> it accessible.
>  Glen
>
>
>  On 14-Oct-2010 17:58, Farfar Carlson wrote:
>    Glen,
>
>    PDF files are often created as each page being an image of something.
> This usually happens when a PDF file is created from a scanner. So it's
> okay
> that it's PDF.
>
>    Dave
>    Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California
>
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: GlenJan
>      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>      Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 23:45
>      Subject: Re: Here is the PDF file I'm talking about!
>
>
>      Brandon,
>      This is nothing more than a series of pictures, one picture per page
> which has been saved with a PDF file extension.
>      No idea why this one has been saved with a PDF file extension, but
> it's still a picture and therefore should have a file extension of .jpg.
>      To make it accessible to a screen reader, you would need to use
> Optical Character Recognition to turn it into text.
>      HTH.
>      Glen
>
>
>      On 14-Oct-2010 16:06, Brandon Keith wrote:
>        Here,
>        I forgot to attach it on the last email!
>        Thank you,
>
>        Brandon Keith
>
>        Check out
>        MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithcom
>        Also add me on facebook!
>        brandonkeith
>
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