Re: [Bulk] Re: Cash Manager
- From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:57:11 -0700
Gary,
I've downloaded the trial, but not yet installed. However did you listen to the
webcast from FS? Start listening at the point about 38 minutes before the end,
as it starts there. According to what I heard, you can print checks with the
home version.
But I sure would like to know also about being able to import and export
different file formats and direct connection with bank accounts.
Dave
Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary King
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 14:37
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Cash Manager
I downloaded CashManager 2010 and put it in Trial Mode. There is only one
download, and you choose whether you want to use one of the business versions
or the Home version during installation. I chose the Home version and loaded
some evaluation data after the installation was complete. I also checked the
box for screen reader users and put VI in an edit box for the Special Code when
instructed during the installation.
I was able to move through the evaluation data transactions in the registry
and tab to the various buttons that selected the type of transaction. I went
into Edit mode and could tab from field to field. That's all I've done in the
actual program so far.
I looked through some of the Help topics and found a table that compared the
various versions. Unless I read it wrong, the Home version does not print
checks, which would be unfortunate if true. It also seems that the U.S.
version does not yet allow for importing bank statements. If these limitations
prove correct, I will continue to use Excel. I don't really write more than 3
or 4 checks a year anyway, but it would be nice to have the capability. It
looked like there were quite a lot of features for the business user, but I
don't plan to test those versions.
I would give the program a pretty good grade for accessibility, but the
approach of cutting down the business versions for the home user leaves me
somewhat disappointed. I will probably take a look at some of the tutorials on
the web site to see what all the program can do. I would be interested in what
other JFW users think of CashManager.
Gary King
w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:25 AM
Subject: Cash Manager
Gary, I was confused by your original subject line, which hinted at good
news about Quicken, so I've changed it. I remember a circular like this being
posted a year or so ago, and I'm sure we're all eager to lend support to such
an appeal and initiative. But I've never heard of this product outside the
context of this listserv. If I were a Quicken user or candidate, I'd want to
know whether this program can work alongside Quicken and similar more
widespread applications so that blind and sighted colleagues can share their
work seamlessly. By analogy, I much prefer WordPerfect as a word processor to
MS Word, and I'm fortunate that conversion between the two is quick and simple.
I'm not suggesting you have the answer, and it's important that promotions like
this be disseminated. But I wonder if other listers with accounting experience
have any thoughts. I know many people on this list swear by Excel for
accounting.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Gary King
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:57 AM
To: JawsScripts
Cc: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Fw: Quicken 2010
Since this message is forwarded from the GW-info list, it talks about the
accounting program the company is marketing being compatible with Window-Eyes,
but it also refers to its compatibility with other major screen readers. Since
they have both a home and business version of the program, it could be
worthwhile giving it a try for either situation. They are welcoming feedback on
any accessibility problems. The company is located in New Zealand, but as can
be seen from the below message, there are versions for several countries.
Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Raewyn Whisker
To: gw-info@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:02 PM
Subject: Quicken 2010
My name is Raewyn Whisker and I work for a company called Accomplish. We
have an accessible accounting package called CashManager that works well with
Window-Eyes and other major screen readers.
What I would like to ask is why would you continue to work with - or
communicate with a product or company that is not listening to you? You have
alternatives, we do and have listened to our client base. We have a business
version, a not for profit version and a home version available and accessible
for the USA, UK, Australian and the New Zealand Market.
We have worked with individuals and organisations regarding the
accessiblility of our product. To name some - NFB, ACB, RNIB, Vision Australia
and RNZFB.
We are now starting to work with screen reading companies like GW Micro to
ensure we get things as easy to use as possible.
Our product has been around since 1992, and is well proven for ease of use
and functionality. We have been working on the accessiblity of the product
since 2006 when it was first bought to our attention that it was accessible.
The person who bought this to our attention is a Window-Eyes user! Since then
we have worked on making the product 100% keyboard use, we have a 'special
code' that changes any 'images' to 'check/uncheck' so anyone using a screen
reader can easily understand what is happening, plus other things like labels
and dialogue boxes being readable.
We know we are not 100% perfect, but then what program is? We have done
what we have done because we listen to our clients. Please have a look at our
product on www.accomplishglobal.com. You can download a trial version and have
a play. You can email me and I will answer your questions. We cannot provide
everything to everyone, but if it will benefit our users across the board, and
we can do it - we will.
There will always be companies out there that care, and those that don't.
Way waste your valuable time on those companies that don't care, when you could
work with companies that are really trying to make a difference, please give us
a shot. If you don't like our product, come back to me and tell me why! If you
don't tell us, we will never know and therefore cannot make any changes.
Please help us help you!
Regards Raewyn Whisker Account Manager Accomplish Limited
Phone: +64 9 571 4560 X 715
Email: raewyn.whisker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Website: www.accomplishglobal.com
Skype: raewyn.whisker
From: Solomon Mekonnen <solomoon@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Pat Ferguson <pat.ferguson328@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Quicken 2010
AT the risk of sounding like a truly broken record, let me briefly
grab your attentions once again. Thank you so much to all who
honored my request and sent message to Mark at Intuit. However, such
accessibility issues raised by Pat could be addressed effectively if
we bring our voices together. Like the accessibility challenge I
recently raised regarding TurboTax, the same point can be
emphatically stated about Quicken or QuickBooks. My company uses
QuickBooks. But because of accessibility issues, I am at the mercy
of my colleagues working under my supervision. Some of us seem to be
less moved by such issues unless it is something we personally
need. There are individual needs an preferences. But then again,
there is a world of marketplace ideas which requires a more conserted
action than an individual voice. Let us flood Intuit with
accessibility requests regarding all of its products whether or not
it is relevant to individual use.
Can we? What would it take to convince fellow blind and visually
impaired persons to reach beyond individual interest and make a
collective, sensible, and audible noise?
Best regards
Solomon.
At 01:16 PM 8/7/2010, you wrote:
Hi David and Everyone,
We have decided to go with QuickBooks Pro, I think instead of Quicken.
Whatever the latest version is.
I do hope they make it accessible very soon.
Thanks much.
Pat Ferguson
At 12:07 PM 8/7/2010, you wrote:
Hello,
I was under the impression that the newer version of Quicken
were accessible out of the box as there are no set files for
them. I am finding that this program is extremely difficult to
use. Does anyone have suggestions on how to best use this product?
Sincerely,
David Gerry
Boston, Massachusetts USA
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